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Old 04-09-2014, 08:24 AM   #141
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We be The Infamous/You heard of us

Tha Fork lays a well-deserved 10.0 on The Infamous reissue. This album never gets its due; the Holy Trinity of 90s NY hip-hop (36 Chambers/Ready to Die/Illmatic) really needs to be a Holy, um, Quad.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:05 AM   #142
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"shook ones part II" is forever my jam.

please tell me somebody in this thread listened to lil ugly mane's mista thug isolation from a couple years ago. easily one of the weirdest producer/rappers out.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:17 AM   #143
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Really gotta get on The Infamous.

I get where you're coming from Cass... and I know a lot of people love Drake because he's got that more emotional side. To me, personally, it's always just come across as lame, and if I'm looking for emotion in rap I'll stick to my boys Outkast, plus De La Soul, Kanye even. Drake's music has never connected with me and as LM said the more r&b type stuff is being done better (IMO) by the likes of the Weeknd and Frank Ocean.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:38 AM   #144
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ehhh the weeknd's only decent project is house of balloons. how many times have you guys listened to kiss land?? nobody's talking about that now and pretty much everyone forgot about it within weeks. same goes for frank ocean, imo...nostalgia, ultra was great and then channel orange was pretty bland. i need to see what else he can do though. supposedly, his latest album is nearly finished.

de la soul and outkast just can't speak to my millenial soul like drake can.
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:26 AM   #145
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Echoes of Silence is excellent and personally I loved Channel Orange, as did a lot of people...that was a huge breakthrough for him and was AOTY according to Pazz and Jop. I think he's only going to get better.

As far as Drake and emotion goes, are we talking about lyrics or mic work? Because Kendrick is twice the MC Drake is as far as conveying emotion with his voice. Drake always has the same monotone delivery, which is supposed to mean he's emotional about something, I guess (apparently he's emotional all the time), but he could never dominate a track with multiple voices and deliveries like Kendrick does on Maad City. He's just not in that league. Lyrically, sure, Heartbreak Drake is an emotional guy. And that's cool. But even though he has good flow, he seems incapable of switching it up for the song. Eminem, for instance, used to do that, but now all he does his yell like a jackass regardless of what he's saying.
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Old 04-09-2014, 12:27 PM   #146
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it's telling that you didn't say a word about kiss land...

"underground kings," "trophies," "days in the east," "worst behavior," "hold on, we're going home," "the language," and "versace" all have the same flow? c'mon now.

look. i like kendrick and respect what he's doing, but no matter what i say, you're always gonna say that he's the best at whatever. and that's fine. i don't share that opinion though and i probably never will.
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Old 04-09-2014, 12:58 PM   #147
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Oh I really like Kiss Land, I just wouldn't use it as proof that he has more than one excellent project. Kiss Land and Wanderlust are great songs. Overall, I'd place it about on par with Thursday.

Not really fair mixing vocal and rapped songs when the argument is that Drake doesn't show enough emotion as a rapper. I wasn't even arguing that he has the same flow all the time, just the same tone.

And I didn't make the Kendrick/Drake comparison initially, I was just responding to you saying that he was a "clinical" rapper. The two are really nothing alike and have two very different audiences, but Kendrick is a very emotional MC.

Anyway, I'm not trying to be antagonistic or anything, so agree to disagree!
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Old 04-09-2014, 01:58 PM   #148
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even if you remove the vocal songs, the tone of the other songs still varies between say, "underground kings" and "worst behavior." either way, you brought up both his delivery and flow first.

I also think you'd be surprised at how much their audiences cross over. why else would drake put kendrick on a track of his?

anyway, yeah, agree to disagree.

so, has anyone listened to lil ugly mane or not?
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Old 04-11-2014, 11:19 PM   #149
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This is pretty funny from Drake

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Old 04-12-2014, 04:40 PM   #150
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Full Outkast set from last night:

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Old 04-12-2014, 06:15 PM   #151
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Terribly received show, apparently. But who cares what that crowd thinks about Outkast? Awful choice of festival to kick off their reunion; full of posers that don't have the slightest idea about southern hip hop.
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Old 04-12-2014, 11:53 PM   #152
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it wasn't just the crowd though...my twitter timeline was full of huge outkast fans saying how awkward the performance was, mostly because of 3000.
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Outkast suggestion: Monae 3000.
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:44 AM   #154
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This appeared yesterday and sums up my feelings on Drake well.

EVERYTHING'S COMING UP DRIZHOUSE

I have disliked his work ever since I first heard him drop a deflating fart of a verse on What's My Name and ruin an otherwise good song. I just think he's a really, really average MC. The only verse of his I've ever enjoyed is on Fuckin Problems (I do love that verse though).
Oh god that made me laugh. I think anything Drake kinda makes me laugh, though.

I much prefer his singing to his rapping, and even then my favourite song of his is "Lord Knows", and that's got nothing to do with his verses (which are perfectly decent as far as he goes) but because of Just Blaze and Rozay.
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it wasn't just the crowd though...my twitter timeline was full of huge outkast fans saying how awkward the performance was, mostly because of 3000.
I'm watching the performance right now. The first dozen or so tracks went over well. The Speakerboxxx/Love Below run in the middle completely destroyed the show and Future guesting on non-hits nailed the coffin shut. Then technical problems cut Ms. Jackson short and the crowd was so dead that Andre didn't want to give them what they wanted and literally turned his back on them for Hey Ya.

The way the show was sequenced was terrible and the crowd was terrible. Andre seemed fine until he got absolutely nothing back.
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Old 04-14-2014, 02:39 PM   #156
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Found this pretty sweet performance. Sorry if I'm late to the game on this one:
http://youtu.be/s7FxVSDLonY
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How I Got Over finally grew on me. That album got a lot of hype when it dropped and it was just another Roots album for me, at the time. The transition from The Day to Right On just won me over.

I still don't really care that much for Undun though, don't know why. I appreciate its creativity but the songs don't blow me away.
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Old 04-15-2014, 07:18 AM   #158
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Feel very fortunate I got to see both the first Outkast show in forever and a fifteen minute pitch for Future's album last weekend.
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Andre's vocals sounded really weird for the entirety of that stream. Like that his mic was sort of fucked up or something. No idea if that was the case at the festival.
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:48 AM   #160
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nice little rolling stone feature on future/honest:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...rstar-20140415

annnnd a full stream of honest is up now:

http://www.complex.com/music/2014/04...-honest-stream
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