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Old 08-19-2011, 05:38 PM   #581
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FUCK!

People, check your voicemail in a timely fashion.

Or you'll miss out on freebie tickets to The Roots.

Fuck. Properly sour.
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Old 08-21-2011, 05:32 AM   #582
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Intensely interesting article with ?uestlove.

http://pitchfork.com/features/interv...love-15-years/

I learnt more about hip-hop reading that in 10 minutes than I have in like 21 years.
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Came back to Oneirology on the way home from work... liked it a lot more will definitely buy it. I think last time I listened to it in the afternoon... functions much better at night-time (I'm beginning to feel this with the majority of albums). The production is sublime, and though it's modern it doesn't have any of the clubby beats that we've come to expect from modern hip-hop production. That's not to say I don't like that, hell there was a fair bit on Sir Lucious and there is on Watch the Throne, but overall I've come to prefer old-school/more subtle production.
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Probably goes without saying, but definitely avoid Tha Carter IV. Generally speaking, I enjoyed III, or at least appreciated what it was going for; it exhibited some (likely drug-induced) creativity and excitement, as well as charisma from Weezy himself, who actually had a recognizable, if jarring style on that one. He was so fucked up that even the shitty songs (there were loads of them) contributed something.

However, this new one is a lot more straightforward and sober, and the result is, sadly, a series of lame punchlines over unimaginative beats, with none of the cracked-out fun. She Will and 6'7' are the best tracks, and they're already on the radio. I liked MegaMan, which showed Weezy in good lyrical form and the beat was solid, and I also liked Interlude and Outro, neither of which featured Weezy. Andre 3k was in there though, spitting an acceptable verse. Abortion is the only other track I could possibly call "good," mostly because it's so unconventional that it inadvertently charms. It's the only track that matches the surrealism of Dr. Carter (my favorite song of his) and Phone Home (crap but hilarious) from III.

Everything else, well over half of the album, is unremarkable or awful, with How To Hate and How To Love ranking as two of his worst songs ever, even counting Rebirth. I don't get why John was a single; it's completely unremarkable and hook-free, and I hate hearing that shit on the radio.

A weak 4/10 or generous 5/10 for this one. Not sure.
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is 15 years old today.



A really remarkable album, start to finish. Could be released in 30 years and it would still sound like it's from the future. Unlike any other hip-hop album I've ever heard... so chilled, so reflective. You can't dance to it. This track is the closest I've come to tears from a hip-hop track.

When tonights is hot
Warm enough to feed your soul
Growing old...
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Tha Carter IV is out?!
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Intensely interesting article with ?uestlove.

http://pitchfork.com/features/interv...love-15-years/

I learnt more about hip-hop reading that in 10 minutes than I have in like 21 years.
You should get hold of this - really, really good:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cant-Stop-Wo...4543973&sr=1-1
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Liquid Swords is laid back as fuck... not at all what I was expecting. It'll take some time for me to really get into I think.

The production on "Swordsman" turns me on, and then you combine that with GZA's killer flow...

You can add B.I.B.L.E. to that list. Astounding production and flow. Fuck me dead. This is why I love hip hop.
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I'm always surprised by what you haven't heard.

Heard any Ghostface yet?
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Nope. This is only the fourth Wu-Tang album I've heard. The others are Method Man's Tical 0: The Prequel and Legendary Weapons, both of which aren't great.

I'll get there. Very, very excited at what I have to discover.
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Liquid Swords is laid back as fuck... not at all what I was expecting. It'll take some time for me to really get into I think.

The production on "Swordsman" turns me on, and then you combine that with GZA's killer flow...

You can add B.I.B.L.E. to that list. Astounding production and flow. Fuck me dead. This is why I love hip hop.
I had Cold World on repeat for about a month straight two years ago. This album is sick.
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I had Cold World on repeat for about a month straight two years ago. This album is sick.
Fuck! DaveC! Please post more man. This is my favourite thread on the forum!

It will take me a while to really get into, but damn do I love Swordsman and BIBLE.
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Yeah for fuck's sake some guy was impersonatin' ya recently Dave!


(not really, but it made for some small talk..lol..how ya been man?)
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Yeah I saw that thread.

I'm good, still stuck in Ontario and still in the Army (but I'm getting out soon and going back to Halifax). I was on training for a while so I didn't get to a computer much, and when I did it wasn't long enough to browse the forums. What's new?
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I saw Big Boi last week and it was the best thing of all time.
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Yeah I saw that thread.

I'm good, still stuck in Ontario and still in the Army (but I'm getting out soon and going back to Halifax). I was on training for a while so I didn't get to a computer much, and when I did it wasn't long enough to browse the forums. What's new?
Didn't even remember you were in Ontario. Whereabouts? Barrie?
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That Jeff Chang book came today but no one was home so now I have to wait till Monday

In other news, GZA has overtaken RZA as my favourite Wu-Tang member. He has such killer flow.
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'Liquid Swords' has a legitimate claim on being the best Wu-Tang solo effort. Gza's verbal dexterity is just ridiculous.

Unfortunately, nothing he's done since is anywhere near it, and he's sounded just lazy for the last 10 years. Right now I'd say Raekwon is easily the top Wu MC (5 years ago I'd have probably said Ghostface).
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