Depeche Mode - Page 29

Jive Turkey · 03-22-2013, 08:19 PM

Damn, just looked it up. Those are Dave's only 3 on the album. Good for him. I was going to come post a snarky post yesterday about how obvious his songs are. So wrong

Danny Boy · 03-26-2013, 03:52 PM

Having my first listen to Delta Machine right now. I'm afraid it really lags in the middle.

U2inUtah · 03-26-2013, 06:30 PM

You can watch the full SXSW set here:

Yahoo!

Looks like its pretty much the same (short) setlist as the Letterman performance, with the addition of "Only When I Lose Myself".

iron yuppie · 03-28-2013, 11:07 AM

I get the feeling this one is a grower. Highlights for me on first listen were Angel, Heaven (which sounds much better in context), and Alone. The MVP has got to be Dave - his vocals just continue to get more evocative and nuanced on each album. I think I agree with DB that the middle could have been trimmed a bit, though.

Jive Turkey · 03-28-2013, 11:12 AM

I'd cut out Slow and Child Inside. That would make for a less saggy album.

I also feel like Angel and Raw Nerve need a lot of work. The lyrics are horrendous and they just feel thrown together. They have great elements, but feel half baked. I do like when the timing of Angel changes in the middle however.

OpenG180 · 03-28-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

I'd cut out Slow and Child Inside. That would make for a less saggy album.

I also feel like Angel and Raw Nerve need a lot of work. The lyrics are horrendous and they just feel thrown together. They have great elements, but feel half baked. I do like when the timing of Angel changes in the middle however.

I'd cut those 2 too. And substitute for All That's Mine and Happens All The Time (if the album must had the same number of tracks).

OpenG180 · 03-29-2013, 06:51 AM

So Pitchfork gave it a 5...

Jive Turkey · 03-29-2013, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by OpenG180

So Pitchfork gave it a 5...

"People who make machines use the term 'delta' to mean 'change.'"

Fuck, I can't stand pitchfork

iron yuppie · 03-29-2013, 12:13 PM

Pitchfork has never held DM in high regard, which is odd considering the adulation they throw at New Order.

FitzChivalry · 03-29-2013, 01:45 PM

I'm sorry, but I have to say that I COMPLETELY agree with this part of the review:

"But they stopped pushing forward long ago, and now they don't even bother pretending technology has opened up any possibilities for recorded sound in the past 20 years. Now they're just extruding a new album once in a while, reconfiguring the grooves and keywords of the albums from the period when they were a force in pop, without the push toward new noises and uncertain feelings that made that music powerful. There is not a single moment of shock or freshness on Delta Machine, and it's enormously frustrating to hear what was once a band of futurists so deeply mired in resisting change."

Jive Turkey · 03-29-2013, 02:01 PM

I didn't say the album is anything unexpected. I just hate the way pitchfork writes. That's one of the worst opening sentences I've ever read

Danny Boy · 03-29-2013, 02:02 PM

Artistic innovation is primarily a young person's game. I don't really expect Depeche Mode, or U2 for that matter, to really push the pop music envelope anymore.

Agree with JT; that's how I might have started an English paper in ninth grade. It's right up there with "Webster's dictionary defines 'delta' as..."

Jive Turkey · 03-29-2013, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Boy

Artistic innovation is primarily a young person's game. I don't really expect Depeche Mode, or U2 for that matter, to really push the pop music envelope anymore.

Agree with JT; that's how I might have started an English paper in ninth grade. It's right up there with "Webster's dictionary defines 'delta' as..."

Very true on the first bit and funny and true on the second hahaha

Also, where the hell is he getting the connection between Little Universe and Leave in Silence???

corianderstem · 03-29-2013, 02:15 PM

I listened to about half of it on Spotify this week, and didn't think much of it. Oh well.

Jive Turkey · 03-29-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by corianderstem

I listened to about half of it on Spotify this week, and didn't think much of it. Oh well.

Turns out it's a bit of a grower, but even then, it's nothing that will blow your mind. There are a handful of songs that I genuinely enjoy listening to

iron yuppie · 03-29-2013, 02:57 PM

As a big fan, I'm pleased with it. But it's certainly not going to win many converts. That said, I don't think the band really cares about that at this point in their career.

FitzChivalry · 03-29-2013, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

I didn't say the album is anything unexpected. I just hate the way pitchfork writes. That's one of the worst opening sentences I've ever read

Jive, my comment wasn't directed at you. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I just read your post and then went and read the Pitchfork article (and agreed with that last paragraph).

I agree, and understand, that invention is a young artist's game. But aside from not pushing new ground, I just don't find their last few outputs even memorable. Even if the songs were safe, but catchy, like 'Barrel Of A Gun', 'Home', 'It's No Good', 'Suffer Well', I would be happy, but these last 2 albums have just had songs that slip right through my mind after hearing them.

Kind of like a certain Irish band I happen to love, I grew up with DM in the 80's and, for me, that's where my heart will always be as far as they're concerned.

OpenG180 · 03-29-2013, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FitzChivalry

Jive, my comment wasn't directed at you. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I just read your post and then went and read the Pitchfork article (and agreed with that last paragraph).

I agree, and understand, that invention is a young artist's game. But aside from not pushing new ground, I just don't find their last few outputs even memorable. Even if the songs were safe, but catchy, like 'Barrel Of A Gun', 'Home', 'It's No Good', 'Suffer Well', I would be happy, but these last 2 albums have just had songs that slip right through my mind after hearing them.

Kind of like a certain Irish band I happen to love, I grew up with DM in the 80's and, for me, that's where my heart will always be as far as they're concerned.

Barrel of a gun was anything but safe. Very bold 1st single and a real departure in terms of sound.

Every DM album till Playing the Angel had at least a classic DM song. The last two albums have none.

Danny Boy · 03-29-2013, 03:12 PM

The new album has inspired me to go back and listen to their back catalog, some of which I literally haven't heard in 20 years.

Jive Turkey · 03-29-2013, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FitzChivalry

Jive, my comment wasn't directed at you. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I just read your post and then went and read the Pitchfork article (and agreed with that last paragraph).

Oh, no, I know. I was more just adding to my original comment in light of what you had posted

03-22-2013, 08:19 PM	#561
Jive Turkey ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,646 Local Time: 10:12 PM	Damn, just looked it up. Those are Dave's only 3 on the album. Good for him. I was going to come post a snarky post yesterday about how obvious his songs are. So wrong __________________

03-26-2013, 03:52 PM	#562
Danny Boy Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Harvard Supermodel Activist of the Decade Runner-Up Posts: 9,562 Local Time: 06:12 PM	Having my first listen to Delta Machine right now. I'm afraid it really lags in the middle. __________________

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03-26-2013, 06:30 PM	#563
U2inUtah Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 3,344 Local Time: 08:12 PM	You can watch the full SXSW set here: Yahoo! Looks like its pretty much the same (short) setlist as the Letterman performance, with the addition of "Only When I Lose Myself".

03-28-2013, 11:07 AM	#564
iron yuppie ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 10,716 Local Time: 09:12 PM	I get the feeling this one is a grower. Highlights for me on first listen were Angel, Heaven (which sounds much better in context), and Alone. The MVP has got to be Dave - his vocals just continue to get more evocative and nuanced on each album. I think I agree with DB that the middle could have been trimmed a bit, though.

03-28-2013, 11:12 AM	#565
Jive Turkey ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,646 Local Time: 10:12 PM	I'd cut out Slow and Child Inside. That would make for a less saggy album. I also feel like Angel and Raw Nerve need a lot of work. The lyrics are horrendous and they just feel thrown together. They have great elements, but feel half baked. I do like when the timing of Angel changes in the middle however.

03-29-2013, 06:51 AM	#567
OpenG180 War Child Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 793 Local Time: 09:12 PM	So Pitchfork gave it a 5...

03-29-2013, 12:13 PM	#569
iron yuppie ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 10,716 Local Time: 09:12 PM	Pitchfork has never held DM in high regard, which is odd considering the adulation they throw at New Order.

03-29-2013, 01:45 PM	#570
FitzChivalry Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: At the bottom of the ocean, in the deepest sea Posts: 6,300 Local Time: 07:12 PM	I'm sorry, but I have to say that I COMPLETELY agree with this part of the review: "But they stopped pushing forward long ago, and now they don't even bother pretending technology has opened up any possibilities for recorded sound in the past 20 years. Now they're just extruding a new album once in a while, reconfiguring the grooves and keywords of the albums from the period when they were a force in pop, without the push toward new noises and uncertain feelings that made that music powerful. There is not a single moment of shock or freshness on Delta Machine, and it's enormously frustrating to hear what was once a band of futurists so deeply mired in resisting change."

03-29-2013, 02:01 PM	#571
Jive Turkey ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,646 Local Time: 10:12 PM	I didn't say the album is anything unexpected. I just hate the way pitchfork writes. That's one of the worst opening sentences I've ever read

03-29-2013, 02:02 PM	#572
Danny Boy Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Harvard Supermodel Activist of the Decade Runner-Up Posts: 9,562 Local Time: 06:12 PM	Artistic innovation is primarily a young person's game. I don't really expect Depeche Mode, or U2 for that matter, to really push the pop music envelope anymore. Agree with JT; that's how I might have started an English paper in ninth grade. It's right up there with "Webster's dictionary defines 'delta' as..."

03-29-2013, 02:15 PM	#574
corianderstem Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 64,498 Local Time: 07:12 PM	I listened to about half of it on Spotify this week, and didn't think much of it. Oh well.

03-29-2013, 02:57 PM	#576
iron yuppie ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 10,716 Local Time: 09:12 PM	As a big fan, I'm pleased with it. But it's certainly not going to win many converts. That said, I don't think the band really cares about that at this point in their career.

03-29-2013, 03:12 PM	#579
Danny Boy Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Harvard Supermodel Activist of the Decade Runner-Up Posts: 9,562 Local Time: 06:12 PM	The new album has inspired me to go back and listen to their back catalog, some of which I literally haven't heard in 20 years.