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Old 08-06-2005, 12:45 PM   #1
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Bono confesses

I haven´t browsed this forum a lot, so I'm very sorry if this has been posted before:

http://www.atu2.com/news/article.src?ID=4011

In this article Bono truly confesses that he is Christian.. I never had any doubts about this but this article should make the sceptics shut up....
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Old 08-06-2005, 03:30 PM   #2
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I don't really think anyone ever doubted that Bono is a "believer" (his words) but I think that many people (including Bono) don't want any denomination or philosophical branch of Christianity to take him up as their own.

He is his own kind of Christian - maybe the best kind - the one who communes directly with his God and doesn't allow any middlemen (churches) to define his relationship with God.

Bono's relationship with God is as ours should be - highly personal.
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Just because someone goes to a church doesn't mean that they don't have a personal relationship with God. And there is levels of Christian-ness?

I hope I read that wrong.
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That is a great excerpt from the book
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Yes, that interview was nothing new to those who have read the In Conversation book. Even older news is that Bono is a Christian.
He's made that clear from the very start.
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He is his own kind of Christian - maybe the best kind - the one who communes directly with his God and doesn't allow any middlemen (churches) to define his relationship with God.
Actually, this isn't unique to Bono...it's called Protestantism.
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Actually, this isn't unique to Bono...it's called Protestantism.
Exactly.
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I don't recall Bono ever claiming he was a Protestant or Catholic in his practice.

In fact, we all know that he has tried as hard as possible to stay away from identification with any particular denomination.

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I don't recall Bono ever claiming he was a Protestant or Catholic in his practice.

In fact, we all know that he has tried as hard as possible to stay away from identification with any particular denomination.

Yeah, but you were saying how he is a unique Christian for having a relationship w/ God without the Church.....check your church history and it's pretty obvious that this IS the reasoning behind the Protestant Reformation - they didn't believe a Church was necessary to be genuinely religious. For example, they didn't believe you had to confess to a priest for forgiveness, but that sins are dealt with between the sinner and God only. So, yes, you were describing Bono as textbook Protestant.
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Thank you for telling me what I was doing.

I really don't see the need to debate.

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So we're back to defining who is a better Christian.

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Actually, this isn't unique to Bono...it's called Protestantism.
Hmmm.... but there are Protestant Churches too. I understand the argument about not accepting the Pope as 'vicar of Christ' and all that.
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Hmmm.... but there are Protestant Churches too. I understand the argument about not accepting the Pope as 'vicar of Christ' and all that.
Actually, no, there is not a unified Protestant "Church" (with that capital C) like the Roman Catholic Church. Our elders, pastors, and officials are all appointed by our congregations and we do not have the heirarchy that the Catholic Church does.
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Thank you for telling me what I was doing.

I really don't see the need to debate.

I don't either, but I'm confused as to why you were painting Bono as "his own kind" of Christian when there's nothing unique about what you described. I don't need to debate, but I feel like the issue should be clarified so that others aren't confused about Protestantism and what it means to be a Protestant. I also don't understand why you feel so threatened about the idea of Bono being Protestant. I really have no clue what denomination he is or really care for that matter, but what he says and does is generically Protestant, not his own kind of unique Christianity.
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I am Catholic....but am still my own kind of Christian in that I feel mine and everyone else's relationship to God is unique. I just prefer to worship in the Catholic Church.....actually i think "THE CHURCH" is compromised of all believers in Christ be that whatever way they choose to worship....Susan
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Actually, no, there is not a unified Protestant "Church" (with that capital C) like the Roman Catholic Church. Our elders, pastors, and officials are all appointed by our congregations and we do not have the heirarchy that the Catholic Church does.
But surely the Anglicans consider themselves Protestants? They seem to have a hierarchy, with bishops, etc.
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But surely the Anglicans consider themselves Protestants? They seem to have a hierarchy, with bishops, etc.
Honestly I've never been to an Anglican service and I'm not familiar with their denomination so I can't really comment here. I'm going to read up on the Anglican church now, but that's more of an FYM thing anyway.

Either way, it's beside the point of the thread and the point I was trying to make...
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But surely the Anglicans consider themselves Protestants? They seem to have a hierarchy, with bishops, etc.
There are plenty of different denominations that are Protestant. Church governance varies from casual to formal. However, there is no Pope-like equivilent that speaks for all Protestants.
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I am Catholic....but am still my own kind of Christian in that I feel mine and everyone else's relationship to God is unique.
I agree. My point was simply that the example Jamila gave for Bono's unique Christianity is not unique, it's the point behind the Protestant Reformation.

We all have our own unique theology and our own unique relationships with God, and I don't think anyone here is close enough to Bono to know what denomination he is or isn't.
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But surely the Anglicans consider themselves Protestants? They seem to have a hierarchy, with bishops, etc.
In my experience there is not much difference between the Roman Catholic Church and the high Anglican Church (low Anglican tends to be more influenced by evangelicalism).

The major difference is the Roman Catholic tradition of sacerdotalism in which ordained priests are the essential mediators between God and mankind... which includes the power to transubstantiate the sacraments into Christ's actual blood and body.

All forms of Protestant churches have a form of heirarchy but most hold to the concept of the 'priesthood of all believers' and tend not to claim that priests are essential mediators.

I think it would be interesting, now that Bono is allegedly flirting with Catholicism, what his views are on transubstantiation, sacerdotalism and papal infallability.
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