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Old 04-09-2018, 09:26 PM   #181
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I agree with that - but it’s a really shitty way for the show to respond.

Why not say, “this is an issue. Apu will be voiced by an Indian voice actor going forward”. Simple.
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I agree with that - but it’s a really shitty way for the show to respond.

Why not say, “this is an issue. Apu will be voiced by an Indian voice actor going forward”. Simple.
I finally watched the doc. Very thought-provoking stuff. Especially

 
the contention that Apu is essentially a minstrel and the reveal that the original notes for the character specified he not be Indian, but that Shearer did a stereotypical Indian accent in the initial reading anyway.
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Old 04-19-2020, 06:04 PM   #183
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If you could make any Troy McClure film into an actual movie, what would it be?

For me: "The Verdict Was Mail Fraud."
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i'm curious about "lepers in the backfield" and "the president's neck is missing".
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:46 PM   #185
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Old 05-26-2020, 07:16 PM   #186
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Old 07-06-2020, 04:26 PM   #187
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Old 07-08-2020, 01:24 PM   #188
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I feel like there was more they could've done with this, but also it's perfect?
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Old 04-07-2021, 07:29 PM   #189
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I signed up for Disney Plus a while back, and it led me to re-watch a lot of The Simpsons. By a lot, I mean every episode from seasons 1-10.

A debate that comes up a lot is when the show began its steep decline. The consensus answer to this is the Skinner-as-imposter episode from season 9.

For my money, though, it is the very last episode of season 10: the one where they vacation in Japan. It is the first abjectly bad episode of the series: mean-spirited, insensitive, hellishly over-reliant on stereotypes, and completely unfunny. S10 E23 is the precipice.
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I've been meaning to get back into and rewatch The Simpsons for a very long time.
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Some of those "classic" episodes have aged very poorly. Homer Badman in particular. That one's attitude is downright regressive.
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I think it's fine! I think you'd have to be much more careful in how you'd write that today, given the climate, and I just straight up wouldn't air it, or write it... but I think taken on its own merits, it's quite well done.
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I love that episode.
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I see nothing wrong with Homer Badman and I've watched it enough times to have it memorized at this point. In this day and age, nobody would write an episode about a false sexual assault accusation because it would do more harm than good (even then, it wasn't purposeful so much as a misunderstanding), but that was never the point of the episode. It was about herd mentality, hack journalism and the profound psychological impact of media sensationalism, which is still relevant today.
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The thing feels to me like someone in that writer's room got rejected or was overly aggressive with a woman, then wrote an episode about how victimized they felt about it. IMO it is very mean-spirited, which is uncharacteristic of the show's early seasons.
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That could be true.
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Nah, it demonizes the tabloids spreading junk content, not the victim herself or the people protesting on the lawn. The moral is that the controversy would have died out if anyone had bothered to investigate it properly. Homer trusted media outlets to have his back and got burned in the process.

The fact that the victim was a female graduate student is relevant to the media narrative but beyond that doesn't really matter. I don't feel there is any specific invective pointed her way and she's not depicted any differently after the incident takes place.

The episode wouldn't get made today but it's balanced well for its time and still has plenty of good commentary in it.
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The fact that the victim was a female graduate student is relevant to the media narrative but beyond that doesn't really matter. I don't feel there is any specific invective pointed her way and she's not depicted any differently after the incident takes place.

I don't think I agree with that. There are a million ways they could have gone with the media sensationalism angle but landed on a stereotypical "feminist." With her introduction, Bart immediately mocks her feminism in a way that barely gets counteracted. The choice to me seems deliberate. But again that's just my read on it.
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I don't think I agree with that. There are a million ways they could have gone with the media sensationalism angle but landed on a stereotypical "feminist." With her introduction, Bart immediately mocks her feminism in a way that barely gets counteracted. The choice to me seems deliberate. But again that's just my read on it.
Right, but the Simpsons' reactions to Grant are in character. She falls on Lisa's side of the cultural/sociopolitical line that separates her from Bart and Homer, so it makes sense that Bart would poke at her feminism because it was the primary trait that Lisa introduced her with.

One could argue that the writers could have made her a more balanced character, but with 22 minutes to work with you risk her having no defining characteristics at all. That show has always used caricature to its advantage and while Grant isn't especially likable, my reading is more that she exists in a space the Simpsons do not reside in, which makes her interaction with Homer so much more uncomfortable and the larger media narrative easier to create.

I just don't get anti-feminist vibes from the episode. I get "the media has been poking at my show for 5 years and I'm tired of it" vibes.
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