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Old 05-06-2008, 04:16 PM   #81
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Old 05-06-2008, 04:27 PM   #82
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having lived and paid for petrol in both europe and north america, it's interesting how north americans feel hard done by.
at least by comparison to europe, north american petrol is cheap.

the one good thing about high prices is hopefully this increase the demand for cleaner energy alternatives. mass produce a fucking electric car already. mankind put someone on the mood decades ago and we're still putting the same shit in our cars to make them run as we did 70 years ago.
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Old 05-06-2008, 04:42 PM   #83
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having lived and paid for petrol in both europe and north america, it's interesting how north americans feel hard done by.
at least by comparison to europe, north american petrol is cheap.
Not excusing Americans (hey I'm not complaining, I purposely moved 3 blocks from my office!), but I think the standard of living as a whole is higher in many western European countries. For example, Ireland's minimum wage is $13.38 (just Googled the first country I thought of ) and the US' is $7.25 which just came into effect.

Michigan may not have the highest gas prices, but we have the worst economy and worst unemployment. So yeah, when you're making about half of what people in Europe are making, plus often driving hours a day to/from work as many do, the gas prices hurt.

I'm lucky I can afford to chose where I rent, so we are both close to work/school and can drop other activities farther away if we need to.
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Old 05-06-2008, 06:35 PM   #84
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Britains minimum wage is £5.52. Irelands equivelent in pounds is £6.53, so thats £1 higher anyway. Things are quite pricey over there I believe so its not really as if you're earning more money.
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Public transportation in Southern California is pitiful, but I don't think that's the main reason why so many people drive and use so much gas, I think it's housing. Even with the current crash, many people (myself included) can't afford to live near where they work, whether buying or renting.
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Britains minimum wage is £5.52. Irelands equivelent in pounds is £6.53, so thats £1 higher anyway. Things are quite pricey over there I believe so its not really as if you're earning more money.
That's exactly the point, it all evens out. We can't really compare prices in the US vs. prices in Europe, we should compare prices against the work wages in the same country. Things cost a lot less here....we make a lot less here.
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:06 PM   #87
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Europe doesn't have the level of suburban sprawl that exists in the US - it's much more dense, walkable, and mass transit-oriented. Most European cities were built before cars were invented, and the car ownership rate is lower and commutes are shorter.
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:08 PM   #88
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The highest gas price I've seen is so far is $3.94.
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Yeah, I have to say that it rubs me the wrong way a little bit when non-Americans chide us for complaining about gas prices.

I understand that we pay a lot less than other countries, but that doesn't mean a lot of Americans don't hurt when our prices rise little by little.

At work, I talk to employees who are working retail, trying to provide for a family on wages that are frankly, not nearly enough to do so. They struggle to make ends meet as it is, and rising gas prices mean something else has to not get paid to ensure they can get to work.

What a slap in the face to have imply they should suck it up and stop their bitching, because they're not really paying that much for gas in comparison.
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:44 PM   #90
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I drive an '05 Nissan Altima; I will usually fill when my gauge reads 1/4 tank left...kinda takes the sting outta paying the high price...and I've cut my trips to LA to twice every two weeks; the rest of So CA is fair-game as its not STOP and NO-GO!

Plus, I get reimbursed for mileage at .55 a mile so that helps a lot...
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:17 PM   #91
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we fill our gas tanks with erm.. like 3 $

At least something good comes from living in my country



FYK a 2L bottle of coca cola costs 2 $ and a 1L bottle of water costs 1 $
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:08 AM   #92
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Why lookie there, who's almost the greenest state? Freakin' Texas.


yes, I AM reaping the benefits of this...but soon and very soon I will be returning to reddish orange Chicagoland where I can feel less guilty about it.
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Gas prices are astronomical. I swear prices go up on average 2 cents per day. When is it going to stop?
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Gas prices are astronomical. I swear prices go up on average 2 cents per day. When is it going to stop?
Probably not anytime soon since some analysts are now saying that oil is headed for $200 per barrel. Let the good times roll!
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Europe doesn't have the level of suburban sprawl that exists in the US - it's much more dense, walkable, and mass transit-oriented. Most European cities were built before cars were invented, and the car ownership rate is lower and commutes are shorter.
bingo.

if i could take mass transit to work, i would. but my job is just far enough away from any train station to be walkable, and the LIRR won't allow bikes on peak (rush) hour trains.

i am looking into moving closer to work to offsent prices. hopefully by july.
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:48 PM   #97
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I just paid $3.91/gal for reg unleaded.
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I'm in Scotland, never had a car (never been able to afford or have one) but i do notice the prices of petrol and like a few people here have mentioned, i can't believe it when i read of people in the US complaining about the price of petrol (or gas as you call it there!) when i know how much more expensive it costs here!! It seems like it's around 4 times cheaper over there - though admittedley, the UK does have the NHS! (we have that benefit!)


Though i do realise that the UK is not as much of a car-centric country as the US is (for example, as Q1! said, it would be unimaginable for us NOT to have sidewalks - pavements, as their proper name is! -, as we do have a pretty good public transport system here (despite some expensive prices) and we're a much smaller place, so it's a whole different thing going on culturally really!
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You are right Susan, petrol is more expensive than what we pay here in the US. Having a car is a priviledge and expensive. I only know the difficulty of trying to keep up with auto expense as an American car owner. Add to that along with daily rising gas prices the fact that food prices, prices for other services and goods also rise as transportation costs rise and so does everything else. When does it end?
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Hey the real tragedy here is Canada, which is more vast than the US, has more oil than the US and our prices are at $4.70ish/gallon....
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