Will Obama end Don't Ask Don't Tell?

[deep]

Murphy amendment passes in House with bi-partisan support

234 - 194


5 Republicans voting yes

26 Democrats voting no, to repeal

Don't tell, Don't ask.

Now, on to the Senate.

[deep]

FOXNews.com - House Votes to Repeal Military Gay Ban

it's official now! (saw it on Fox News)

[corianderstem]

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Will Obama end Don't Ask Don't Tell?

the answer is, YES!
before the end of his 2nd year in office.

[Moonlit_Angel]

WOOOOOOHOO!

Fantastic news . It's nice to see a few Republicans did vote in favor of repeal-course, it was tied to a defense spending thing, so perhaps that had something to do with it...but who knows, why be cynical.

"This is devastating to the war fighters and the combat infantrymen," said Rep. John Shimkus, R-Ill.

Oh, just shut up already. I look forward to him being proven wrong.

Angela

[KhanadaRhodes]

Originally Posted by deep

the answer is, YES!
before the end of his 2nd year in office.

[Irvine511]

and when this passes, NOTHING is going to be different for straight soldiers. all that will happen is that the gay soldiers who have been serving alongside them since forever will be able to breathe a little bit easier and not be forced to lie.

it will be a total non-event.

congrats to Obama.

[martha]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

and when this passes, NOTHING is going to be different for straight soldiers.

This is really all that matters, Irvine. C'mon.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by deep

bi-partisan support

[unico]

i'm glad that dadt is over, it was a stupid policy.
however, i will say that why anybody would want to serve a country that doesn't serve them is beyond me. any homosexual person would know that the "freedom" the military say they fight for is certainly not granted to them.
but, as y'all said, at least they don't have to cover up now.

[Moonlit_Angel]

I find it utterly amazing, actually, that so many groups of people who were discriminated against had a lot of members in the military. Black people, gays, Japanese, etc.-despite the fact that their country treated them like crap at best, they still were willing to fight for the place they called home. I really admire that. Perhaps it helps give other people hope and inspires them-"Well, if they're willing to fight for what they want, then so am I".

Angela

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by unico

but, as y'all said, at least they don't have to cover up now.

well, the straight soldiers are now going to have to. in those hot, steamy, soapy gang showers. the gay soldiers are going to just prance on in and look at the straight soldiers and their virile bodies and dangling protrusions and good lord knows what's going to happen next.

[AliEnvy]

It's definitely good news. But the war-jaded side of me thinks it comes more from pressure on military recruiting than from doing what's right. But hey, whatever works. It's a social, political and military win-win-win.

[unico]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

well, the straight soldiers are now going to have to. in those hot, steamy, soapy gang showers. the gay soldiers are going to just prance on in and look at the straight soldiers and their virile bodies and dangling protrusions and good lord knows what's going to happen next.

you know, that's all the recruiting marketing i'd need to get me to sign up! that sounds hot.

[martha]

Originally Posted by unico

you know, that's all the recruiting marketing i'd need to get me to sign up! that sounds hot.

Sure does!

I dangling protrusions.

[financeguy]

The military is a bit gay anyway, though, isn't it? The Spartans and all that.

[AliEnvy]

Originally Posted by martha

I dangling protrusions.

Military protrusions stand at attention.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by financeguy

The military is a bit gay anyway, though, isn't it?

there are a lot of gay people -- men and women -- in the military. a lot.

it was a surprise to me.

if the gay population is roughly 5% or so in society as a whole, i'd say it's higher in the armed forces.

[financeguy]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

if the gay population is roughly 5% or so in society as a whole, i'd say it's higher in the armed forces.

Would be inclined to agree.

[MrsSpringsteen]

Ollie North On Homosexuals In The Military: ‘NAMBLA Members Are Next’ | Mediaite

While discussing “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” with Sean Hannity, former Marine Corp officer and Fox News contributor Ollie North highlighted the weakness of his own argument by resorting to the same old tired bigotry, comparing homosexuality to organized pedophilia. In what he called a “stunning assault on the all-volunteer military” North slammed Obama for his attempt to allow gays to serve openly in the military, alleging, “Here’s what’s next: NAMBLA members, same-sex marriages,” seemingly unsure himself about the direction his case was headed. The president, he said, is treating soldiers “like lab rats in a radical social experiment.”

“This isn’t about rights, this isn’t about fairness,” North said. “It’s all about national security.