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Old 10-25-2016, 12:26 PM   #521
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There has yet to be an email that she has authored that raises concerns. I see the inner workings of a political machine, and the conversations, planning, strategy sessions are like crack to my inner historian. The only concerning things that have come out are about foundation donations. Again, she is not involved in those emails. If we had republican emails, we would be seeing the same behaviors.
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Old 10-25-2016, 01:16 PM   #522
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The only concerning things that have come out are about foundation donations.
This we agree on, and if she had any opponent other than the guy whose foundation is a slush fund it would be a much bigger deal.
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Old 10-25-2016, 11:13 PM   #523
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Does anyone else see the incredible irony in the right coming to love Assange? Three years ago they all wanted him tried for treason. Now, he's single-handedly saving America?!
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Old 10-26-2016, 02:51 AM   #525
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Does anyone else see the incredible irony in the left coming to hate Assange? Three years ago they all wanted to give him sainthood. Now, he's single-handedly ruining America?!
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Old 10-26-2016, 03:45 AM   #526
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I've never liked Assange personally but I've always been appreciative of what Wikileaks brings in general. My views haven't really changed.
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Old 10-26-2016, 03:55 AM   #527
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hahahahaha. well-played, Khan, very well-played. I concede defeat
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Yeah, my take on Assange hasn't changed. I didn't care for either extreme; hero or hang him. But I did just glance back through this thread, very entertaining read.


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Does anyone see the incredible irony in Assange still portraying himself as a defender of freedom? 6 years ago he was uncovering government corruption, now he's uncovering mundane office politics.

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When he's not releasing information that's trying to give gay Middle Eastern people the death penalty, of course.
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julian assange is a traitor and a glorified high-tech hood snitch who has put a great many of my personal friends in very real danger. he should rot in a jail cell for the rest of his life right next to snowden and chelsea manning. fuck em all for very nearly getting a lot of good people killed and celebrating it like they're heroes for disclosing usable secrets to an enemy.
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Snowden at least seemed to have his conscience in the right place. All I get from Assange is "look at me, look at me!"
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I've never liked Assange personally but I've always been appreciative of what Wikileaks brings in general. My views haven't really changed.
Props to you
You are consistant and more objective than many that post in here.
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julian assange is a traitor and a glorified high-tech hood snitch who has put a great many of my personal friends in very real danger. he should rot in a jail cell for the rest of his life right next to snowden and chelsea manning. fuck em all for very nearly getting a lot of good people killed and celebrating it like they're heroes for disclosing usable secrets to an enemy.
Can you elaborate on this? Because I'm baffled to hear this from you, unless I had misrepresented your political positions in the past.
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Can you elaborate on this? Because I'm baffled to hear this from you, unless I had misrepresented your political positions in the past.

That's probably a hint that he or his friends/colleagues have been the inadvertent victim of a massive and irresponsible leak.

I'm not sure Snowden falls under that same category. Wikileaks legitimately just publishes everything. That's like dumb chelsea manning shit. Don't think just act. Snowden on the other hand... I feel like there was some calculated restraint with him.
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i was in the military when the afghanistan leaks happened and had a lot of buddies who had their security directly compromised by it. our unit couldn't do anything for weeks because jackass gave up all our crypto codes to the enemy during an active war which opened up all of our operational and logistics details.

for example the information included the highly-secret flight paths over the mountain ranges used in and out of kandahar airport, and the taliban certainly owned a lot of stinger missiles that could have very easily downed a hercules with 200 or so of my friends on it. some things are classified for a damn good reason.

so yea, fuck julian assange and the horse he rode in on. i hope karma bites his ass real hard some day.

snowden...yea it's less directly affecting to me and maybe i shouldn't have included him in that list but i categorically reject the notion that the public "deserves" to know any and all classified info. some things need to be kept secret for the sake of good peoples' lives.
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i was in the military when the afghanistan leaks happened and had a lot of buddies who had their security directly compromised by it. our unit couldn't do anything for weeks because jackass gave up all our crypto codes to the enemy during an active war which opened up all of our operational and logistics details.

for example the information included the highly-secret flight paths over the mountain ranges used in and out of kandahar airport, and the taliban certainly owned a lot of stinger missiles that could have very easily downed a hercules with 200 or so of my friends on it. some things are classified for a damn good reason.

so yea, fuck julian assange and the horse he rode in on. i hope karma bites his ass real hard some day.

snowden...yea it's less directly affecting to me and maybe i shouldn't have included him in that list but i categorically reject the notion that the public "deserves" to know any and all classified info. some things need to be kept secret for the sake of good peoples' lives.



This is all quite true. A very good friend of mine has done what I infer is reasonably high-level intelligence gathering in Iraq and Afghanistan and she had to inform certain contacts to tell them that their name is out there and they were likely going to be murdered.
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Old 10-28-2016, 12:57 PM   #539
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Reminds me of Gary Powers, and his accusations that Oswald had given up his U2 Flight Path when he defected. Oswald did not, but another American had given the intel that resulted in the shoot down. Powers, to my knowledge, was not ever informed that Oswald did not do it.
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julian assange is a traitor and a glorified high-tech hood snitch who has put a great many of my personal friends in very real danger. he should rot in a jail cell for the rest of his life right next to snowden and chelsea manning. fuck em all for very nearly getting a lot of good people killed and celebrating it like they're heroes for disclosing usable secrets to an enemy.
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