What on earth are police doing with Tasers??

[Liesje]

Originally Posted by AnnRKeyintheUSA

Less power is still too much in the hands of some drunken abusive redneck who thinks it's funny to use it on his woman, kid or dog. Because the ones who'd buy that $19.99 would know his victims there would be no problem getting close. I still don't think they should sell them to just anybody.

Well geez where do you draw the line? I could buy a plastic picnic knife and stab a stray dog...oh wait I'm not a drunken abusive redneck, only "those" types of people do shit like that....

[HyperU2]

Originally Posted by AnnRKeyintheUSA

Less power is still too much in the hands of some drunken abusive redneck who thinks it's funny to use it on his woman, kid or dog. Because the ones who'd buy that $19.99 would know his victims there would be no problem getting close. I still don't think they should sell them to just anybody.

Assholes don't need to spend that kind of money to be abusive.


The cops do seem a bit too quick to go to the Taser of late. Everyone is shying away from a good old beatdown.

[MrsSpringsteen]

First use of a taser for a spectator running onto the field. Seems a bit extreme for such an offense. That is quite a photo.



Phillies fan tasered after running onto field

May 4, 2010

PHILADELPHIA --A police officer used a Taser gun to apprehend a fan who ran onto the field during a Phillies game Monday night, and the team and the police are investigating whether it was an appropriate use of force.

The fan, wearing a baseball cap, red T-shirt and khaki shorts, hopped a fence and scurried around the outfield, eluding two security officers in the bottom of the eighth inning against the St. Louis Cardinals. One officer used a Taser and the fan went down in a heap. Several Phillies placed gloves over their faces and appeared to be stifling laughter at the wild scene.

Phillies spokeswomen Bonnie Clark said the police department is investigating the matter and discussing with the team whether using the stun gun was appropriate.

Police spokesman Lt. Frank Vanore told The Philadelphia Inquirer police internal affairs will open an investigation to determine if the firing "was proper use of the equipment."

Vanore was not made available to The Associated Press when a call was placed to the police department's public affairs office late Monday night.

The teams said it's the first time a Taser has been used by police to apprehend a spectator who ran onto the field.

The fan was 17-year-old male and he will be charged with criminal trespass and related offenses, the team said. The Phillies did not release his name because he is a juvenile

[BVS]

You have him surrounded by a ballpark, where's he going to go, just because you can't keep up with a 17 year old doesn't give you free reign on using your taser...

[MrsSpringsteen]

He was probably trying to attack the Phillie Phanatic-that's a priceless national treasure that has to be protected at all costs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riCu3...layer_embedded

[bigjohn2441]

Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen

well, probably better to get tasered for a couple seconds then get tackled by that fatass, if he could even catch him.

[I Move in Mysterious Ways]

Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen

First use of a taser for a spectator running onto the field. Seems a bit extreme for such an offense. That is quite a photo.

Probably got the loudest cheer of the night.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

this thread has taken a very bad turn towards personal attacks.

we should not be making fun of pfan in this way.

[PhilsFan]

That guy's much too tall to be me. I'm flattered, though.

Philadelphia's police force is known for excessive use of force, corruption, all bad things cops do, etc., etc. This doesn't surprise me in the least.

[I Move in Mysterious Ways]

I'm tempted to photoshop a Brewers cap on that cop.

[Jive Turkey]

The photo is very flattering for the cop. You can hardly tell that he is a waddling fatass like in the video

[bigjohn2441]

Originally Posted by I Move in Mysterious Ways

I'm tempted to photoshop a Brewers cap on that cop.

or pointing a big shotgun at him instead

[MrsSpringsteen]

As for the taser, I would assume it's to protect the safety of the players and the other people on the field and in the dugouts. I guess even with the security screenings of people and bags, weapons can still get in and they have to consider that possibility. And obviously you aren't supposed to run onto the field. But it does seem over the top to tase someone for that. Apparently he can be considered a fleeing suspect.

(CBS/ AP) Philadelphia police say an officer appears to have acted appropriately when he used a Taser to subdue a teenager who ran onto the field during a Phillies game.

Lt. Frank Vanore, a police spokesman, says Commissioner Charles Ramsey reviewed the tape and felt the officer had acted within the department's guidelines, which allow officers to use Tasers to arrest fleeing suspects. Vanore says internal affairs is still investigating.

[MrsSpringsteen]

[I Move in Mysterious Ways]

Originally Posted by mrsspringsteen

perfect.

[MrsSpringsteen]

^I didn't make it, I stole it. But I like it

Philly not first to Taser a fan

By Peter Mucha

Inquirer Staff Writer

The Tasering of a Phillies fan last night raises the question: Was this a first?

It may have set a precedent for Citizens Bank Park, and even for a fan running on the field, but it's not the first time a fan has been Tasered at a game.

Apparently, it's happened at least several times before.

In January, before an NFL playoff game, Indianapolis police zapped Jets fan Patrick Mallon, 26, outside the stadium. Allegedly, he was verbally abusive and threw beer at other tailgaters.

"Cops grabbed the construction worker, threw him against their patrol car, punched him in the back of the head and then Tasered him, the witnesses said," according to the New York Post.

In August, Oakland police Tasered a fan in the stands - at least twice.

Thomas Bruso, 62, wasn't running away or throwing punches. He was sitting, waving his arms, as seen on a video shot by a fan.

Ushers tried to eject Bruso for sneaking in alcohol, swearing and being belligerent, but he refused to leave, according to ABC7 in San Francisco.

Three officers arrived.

"You can see here that the individual is really agitated," Officer Jeff Thomason said, reviewing the video. "He's not picking up his belongings that are here on this seat, he's not getting out of this seat. He's not complying with the officer's orders."

Oakland police use Tasers about 250 times a year, but had never used one at an A's game before, ABC7 reported.

Bruso was taken to a hospital for psychiatric evaluation.

But that probably wasn't historic either.

In October 2008, a couple of Red Sox fans were Tasered in the stands in Tampa. The month before, an officer put a Taser to the head of a Sox fan, but didn't fire. But during the American League Championship Series, videos of two incidents apparently show officers subduing fans with Tasers.

Tasering, like players, may have started in the minor leagues before going to majors.

A brawl in the stands at a New England Stars hockey game in April 2007 "resulted in five arrests for breach of peace, three injured Danbury [Conn.] police officers, one 375-pound fan being subdued with a Taser and a promise by Mayor Mark Boughton that there would be a stronger police presence at the Stars' next home game," according to the Danbury News-Times.

Tasered fan Mike Bernardi, 32, said the experience wasn't painful. "Sort of like putting jumper cables on your ears," he told the newspaper.

[MrsSpringsteen]

At least he asked his father for permission first

Tasered teen asked dad for OK to run on field

By Peter Mucha

Inquirer Staff Writer

"He wasn't drinking. He was not on drugs," said the father of the teen Tasered by police in the outfield at Citizens Bank Park last night.

Steve Consalvi, 17, is a senior at Boyertown High and "a real good student, heading to Penn State," according to his father, Wayne, 45, who owns Consalvi Auto Repair in Pottstown.

Steve even called from the park last night, asking for permission to run on the field, as the Phillies hosted the St. Louis Cardinals, the elder Consalvi said.

"He said, 'Dad, can I run on the field? I said, 'I don't think you should, son.' "

"This would be a once in a lifetime experience!" the son said.

There wasn't any dare or a bet, involving the friends the teen was with.

Fearing the worst, the father called a buddy, Lou Caparoni, also at the game.

"Stevie's going to run on the field! You gotta stop him!" Wayne Consalvi recalled.

He knew his buddy, seated in another part of Citizens Bank Park, probably couldn't help.

Sure enough, in the eighth inning, there was Steve, running around in center field, trying to evade police and security personnel. An officer appeared to aim his Taser a few times before hitting the teen, who fell before being led off the field.

It was the first time any fan was Tasered on the field at Citizens Bank Park, according to the Phillies, who will meet with police to discuss handling such situations in the future.

Fans have reportedly been Tasered in the stands at other ballparks, including an Oakland game in August.

This morning, Steve wasn't in school, he was in front of a judge, the father said.

"He's down there with his mother."

The parents divorced more than a decade ago, and Steve basically lives with her in Gilbertsville. [Update: See separate story for comments from the mother and stepfather.]

"She's a good mother," said Wayne, who lives in Upper Pottsgrove.

"I don't recommend running on the field, but I don't think they should have Tased him at all," he said.

"You can't condone this kind of behavior," he added, but he explained he wasn't angry, because it was "teenagers having fun."

Another person Steve apparently knows had a different view:

"hahhaha i knoww that kid that was on the phillies field....he is my HERO i love youuu," tweeted Ashley / Phillies 819 shortly after midnight.

"i love you steve consalvi," she tweeted next.

[I Move in Mysterious Ways]

Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen

"This would be a once in a lifetime experience!" the son said.

Damn right.

[deep]

"I don't recommend running on the field, but I don't think they should have Tased him at all," he said.

"You can't condone this kind of behavior," he added, but he explained he wasn't angry, because it was "teenagers having fun."

police abuse, I hope they get sued
and this kid breaks the bank


fight the power

with twitter - they can get a flash mob of about 300- 400 on that field!

how many tasers they got? 3 or 4

[Moser]

What a way to ruin a favorite tradition--by tasering a child!