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Old 02-16-2011, 11:02 PM   #141
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As far as the 'pay more and live in the city' argument vs 'pay less and have a long, frustrating commute', if you have the financial freedom to make that choice then always close to work for me.

I believe one of the biggest factors in quality of life is commute time. One reason why I will NEVER move to California for a technology job unless it's something I can do the bulk of the work remotely.
you and me both. in a dream world, i'd either be able to: work from home, live in the same building where i work (e.g. multi-use skyscraper), or live within close walking distance to my job. i've had all sorts of commutes ranging from 10 minute drives to over an hour each way.

i just don't want to waste a huge fraction of my life sitting in traffic.
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As far as the 'pay more and live in the city' argument vs 'pay less and have a long, frustrating commute', if you have the financial freedom to make that choice then always close to work for me.

I believe one of the biggest factors in quality of life is commute time. One reason why I will NEVER move to California for a technology job unless it's something I can do the bulk of the work remotely.
My father has had an hour commute for about 12 years now. I did it with him one summer when I worked at his company. Just brutal.

I currently have about a 30-40 minute commute due to having to walk to a bus stop a mile away and then waiting for said bus. I try to avoid going as much as possible, and have actually bought equipment for use at work just so that I can work from my place more.
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:38 PM   #143
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i walk 10 minutes. ride the metro for 40 minutes. walk another 10 minutes. it's only truly awful in the thick humidity of July and August.

it's better than 45 minutes of traffic any day of the week.

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Old 02-17-2011, 03:43 PM   #144
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My commute is a 10/15 minute tram ride - including waiting time and walking to the tram stop at both ends of the journey. I'd like to move to a more suburban area but the thought of the 45 minute plus commute puts me off.
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Old 02-17-2011, 07:46 PM   #145
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In Saipan, my commute was about a minute and a half. Which was especially nice when I forgot something at home (or work).

When we first moved to Ohio, my commute was three hours round trip from Dayton to Columbus. I did for about seven months and couldn't have taken much more (the quality time with NPR not withstanding). Thankfully, my wife found work here in Columbus and now my commute is about 12 to 15 minutes.
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Old 02-18-2011, 05:50 AM   #146
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I commute about 40 minutes, but not daily. A lot of work I can do from home, since it's mostly Excel sheets. I don't have to go to Uni (40 minutes as well), which is nice. Can write my thesis here.
When I was looking for an appartment after I returned to Berlin I found it more important to find something in a nice area where it's not too far from friends and the more interesting districts. I prefer being home quickly after having been out, than having the shortest commute to work.
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Old 02-18-2011, 09:04 AM   #147
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and Berlin has, possibly, the coolest subway system in the world. or at least in Europe.
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:58 AM   #148
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Our subway system, and public transport in general, is quite advanced. At the moment it's always with a grain of salt due to the problems with the S-Bahn (Berlin public transport consits of busses, trams, subways and additional trains running overground, called S-Bahn. The S-Bahn debacle is a perfect example why we all have to love privatisation to death ), but their service is getting better again. And tourists usually don't even realise there are any problems because they are used to so much poorer service from home.
The relative ease and speed with which you get almost anywhere in the city, day and night, is a very important factor of quality, in my view. You don't think twice before going out.
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German public transportation is fierce. so impressive.
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and yet here they're bumping up the price of rail travel just because they're making it every 15 minutes (give or take 45 minutes) during peak hours.

get farrrrrrked.
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I prefer being home quickly after having been out, than having the shortest commute to work.
I call this 'stumbling distance' and it's a very important factor of where I choose to live as well.
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I call this 'stumbling distance' and it's a very important factor of where I choose to live as well.


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12-15 minute commute from my condo, and about a 20 minute commute from my boyfriend's place to my work. And that is the upper limit of what I'm willing to tolerate. I don't care how gigantic your McMansion in the burbs is if you're sitting on the train 45-60 minutes each way. Those are hours of life you'll never get back.
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I'm one who has zero tolerance for work commutes. There's like ten thousand other things I'd rather do with my time. Ironically I'm happy (well, not happy but I do it) to drive 2 hours each way for dog training, but work....hell no. Also with us going the route of getting junker cars and driving until they explode or don't start, it has to be a walkable or bikeable commute should we ever lose a vehicle because Phil's school is much farther away and he doesn't mind a commute like I do. 10-15 minutes (by vehicle) max. Commute has *always* played a huge part in where I live/rent and severely restricts options but I just got used to that way of living as a working college student with no vehicle, being in a city lacking in public transportation (and walking is still cheaper).
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IAlso with us going the route of getting junker cars and driving until they explode or don't start, it has to be a walkable or bikeable commute should we ever lose a vehicle
Haha, hey, that sounds familiar!

We have a car now, thankfully, but my mom uses it to go to work every day (and I don't drive), so if I have to work, I'll either take our local bus on weekdays, or walk/take a cab on the weekends. It's about a 30, 35 minute walk from where I'm living right now to where I work. And then my family picks me up if I get off anytime at night, 'cause walking downtown is tolerable when it's light out, but no way in hell am I walking around the main streets of downtown at 9 pm.

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12-15 minute commute from my condo, and about a 20 minute commute from my boyfriend's place to my work. And that is the upper limit of what I'm willing to tolerate. I don't care how gigantic your McMansion in the burbs is if you're sitting on the train 45-60 minutes each way. Those are hours of life you'll never get back.
that's exactly how i look at it too. i don't want to spend a huge chunk in my life sitting in traffic, whether it's in a car, a bus, i don't want to waste my time like that.
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