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Old 06-08-2011, 02:33 PM   #81
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mean while, in the real world

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Tim Kaine, the former chair of the Democratic National Committee who is now running for a U.S. Senate seat in Virginia, told a local television station earlier that "lying publicly" about his behavior was "unforgivable and he should resign." He is the first prominent Democrat to expressly call for him to do so.
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Old 06-08-2011, 02:44 PM   #82
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Can we really be sure that this picture is Wieners piece? I mean there are many married women in America who presumably haven't seen a male penis in many years. Are they the ones who can safely verfiy?

Furthermore, Anthony, shame on you. If you are going to leave politics because of a sex scandal, go out with a bang. A real one. I mean does talking to women online warrant that? If you are going to take the rap at least you could do the deed.

A Wiener indeed.
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you get it

and for anyone else that does get where I am coming from

it's not a question of what is legal. it is a question of common decency.

one would want to believe if their daughter or son friended or followed a respected U S Congressman on a Social Network. A social network that was created to further his political aspirations. That it would not lead to naked pictures of himself and other lewd, vulgar language and requests.

And no doubt about it, some of these posts happened when he was on the clock, in session. He also used Congressional phones.

He may have survived if he laid low for a few days, and then gave a statement that he made personal bad choices with his online activity. That he would turn his sites over to a staffer to run.

But going pubic and lying, challenging reporters that questioned him. The guy has zero credibility now. Would you want him to serve on a House Committee about internet use? Safety?

Staying in office just shows that he very selfish, putting himself above the Democrat Party and even the good of the country. Can you imagine a parent punishing a kid for sexting nude pictures of him or herself. Only to have the kid say Congressman Wiener texted a picture of his erection to a woman he never met. Just someone that friended him. Why am I being punished??




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will we get a statement from the Honorable Anthony Wiener that he can not say with "certitude" that the image in the link below is not the member's member

NSFW Not Safe For Work : Anthony Weiner Penis Photo Exposed Via Andrew Breitbart's iPhone [NSFW] - New York News - Runnin' Scared
you had me feeling your pain up until the whole "won't someone think of the children" part, at which point you completely lost me.

you brought me back in by posting a report linked to opie & anthony, but yea... not back enough.
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Can we really be sure that this picture is Wieners piece?


A Wiener indeed.
you could be right, this just got added

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Update, 1:46 p.m.: For what it's worth, the photo could very well be a fake because Opie and Anthony are shock jocks, paid to get attention, and have done this sort of thing before on a large scale. Note, for example, that Breitbart seems to have been carrying a BlackBerry at the taping, as reported by Salon, not an iPhone. (Sometimes busy people, especially those who run conservative internet empires, have more than one cellphone.) Call it Weinergate Fatigue Syndrome, but it's hard to care very much either way at this point.
However, Breitbart says he has a picture that Wiener sent to some woman that was sent by Wiener.

"If this guy wants to fight with me again, I have this photo," Breitbart reminded everyone.

at this point Breitbart has been telling the truth and Weiner has been lying.
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Can we really be sure that this picture is Wieners piece? I mean there are many married women in America who presumably haven't seen a male penis in many years. Are they the ones who can safely verfiy?


Attempt at humour?
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Pressure has begun to build within Democratic circles for Rep. Anthony Weiner to step aside although the embattled New York Democrat remains resolute that he is staying in office.

Pennsylvania Democratic Rep. Allyson Schwartz said Wednesday that “having the respect of your constituents is fundamental for a Member of Congress,” adding: “In light of Anthony Weiner’s offensive behavior online, he should resign.”

Such a strong statement by Schwartz, who handles recrutiment as well as member services for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, is widely regarded as a sign that the party leadership has decided it’s time for Weiner to leave the House.

Schwartz joins Arkansas Sen. Mark Pryor and Maine Rep. Mike Michaud as well as former Democratic National Committee Chairman Tim Kaine in calling on Weiner to step aside.
The decent thing, would be for him to do it by tomorrow.

The selfish thing will be for this scumbag to try and hold on though the week end. I doubt if he will survive though next week. What a total loser.

All of the good work he has done is being undermined by his behavior since this story broke.
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deep, if you're so upset about this loser's/scumbag's

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why are your posts much more interested in his sexual fantasies and anatomy and concern that suddenly the children are going to be sexting each other because one of 435 congressional representatives got caught doing something that millions of other people do every day?

you seem more upset about this than about DSK.

anyway, enjoy the ecstasy of sanctimony, kids.
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some things are worth fighting for

marriage equality
meaningful health care reform

that this scumbag should use his elected office to trade for sexual gratification is not one. lying about it should have no consequences ??

online hacking is a serious issue,I believe it is a crime. lying about it is similar to filing a false police report
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And that is why you have to repeatedly throw insults at him?
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there are people that deserve sympathy, defending, this guy is not a victim in anyway

most of the people in here would rather see Obama reelcted over Romney.

This is the kind of thing that sways voters,. The Dems made alot of headway with the scandals the GOP had, Mark Foley, Abranoff, etc scandals in 2006.

You may recall the Dems made good pick ups in the 2006 and 2008 elections.

A lot is at stake in next years elections. Just send a few women and independent voters to the GOP and it is all over.

How can anyone say this guy has not shown extremely poor judgement, repeatedly? Swap him out, he is in a safe district, put in a Dem that is not tainted.
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that this scumbag should use his elected office to trade for sexual gratification is not one. lying about it should have no consequences ??


was he promising political favors to these women? what are the charges?

we're spending good money on an ethics investigation, so i assume these pressing questions will soon be answered.
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i didn't say that

I said he traded on his office for gratification.

he created his accounts with his name and title, the one woman said she could not believe it was really him, she asked him to hold up a sign that said me.


this is the woman that he jerked off to
the one that wrote she wanted to sit on his cock

so yes he did use his office for sexual gratification.

if he had logged on as

TonyFromQueens, that might be different.

That nut-job Chris Lee



did not use his office, he did not use his real name or age when he went trolling.

Still, it is good he resigned.
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there are people that deserve sympathy, defending, this guy is not a victim in anyway

most of the people in here would rather see Obama reelcted over Romney.

This is the kind of thing that sways voters,. The Dems made alot of headway with the scandals the GOP had, Mark Foley, Abranoff, etc scandals in 2006.

You may recall the Dems made good pick ups in the 2006 and 2008 elections.

A lot is at stake in next years elections. Just send a few women and independent voters to the GOP and it is all over.

How can anyone say this guy has not shown extremely poor judgement, repeatedly? Swap him out, he is in a safe district, put in a Dem that is not tainted.
Sure, just wondered why every post had to contain the word "scumbag".
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I remember watching the first week, when he said he got hacked,

I thought it was pretty lousy that someone could get into one's accont and send out anything they wanted.

I don't use a lot of social media, but I know everything is going that way.

well, he tried to lay it off on right wing enemies, and to be honest, I was kind of buying his story. I thought this guy is a victim, this could happen to anyone.

If we can't believe a U S Congressman that has the right to hold hearings, subpena people and compel them to testify under oath, then the whole system is worthless. It's all a sham.
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somebody else does not like being lied to


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Anthony Weiner’s former girlfriend, Kirsten Powers, defended him on TV to millions of people after he insisted to her that he didn’t send lewd photos on Twitter. Now she takes him to task for his rampant misogyny—and says he must resign immediately.

Anthony Weiner lied to the country about his sexual misconduct online. He also lied to me.

I had been defending him, based on what he told me, but no more. Weiner must resign from Congress immediately.

Kirsten Powers was lied to by her ex-boyfriend, Anthony Weiner, about being hacked. This has not been my position previously during the scandal, but as I have recovered from the shock of seeing an old friend’s life unravel and have had time to get my mind around the extensive and sociopathic lying in which he engaged, there seems to be no other choice than for him to step aside and stop hurting his family, friends, and the Democratic Party. As more information trickles out about his online behavior with women, it has also become clear that he does not have the character to be in a position of leadership because of his misogynist view of women and predatory behavior.
Full disclosure: I briefly dated Anthony almost a decade ago after meeting him at a post-campaign party for the 2002 New York gubernatorial race, during which I had worked as Andrew Cuomo’s press secretary. The relationship didn’t last, but we stayed friends. While we were dating, he traveled with my family to Costa Rica for Christmas, and years later I spent Thanksgiving with his when I was stranded in New York City because of work. He was a strong support when my father died suddenly from a heart attack seven years ago. When a relationship I had been hopeful for ended in 2006, he cleared his calendar to spend a Saturday with me and reassure me about my decision. In the last few years, we didn’t see each other or communicate much, though when my husband’s parents were recently trapped in Egypt during the revolution, he helped to connect me to his wife, Huma, an aide to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, to facilitate getting them out.
this from someone that knows him well. and still seems to have regard for all the decent things he has done in the past.
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he "used his office?" if you are talking about funds you'd have a point. but saying that mentioning he was a Congressman is akin to luring unsuspecting, innocent, naive women into his gingerbread house is really pushing it, and it's really patronizing to these women.

from a political perspective, he's toast, for now. and a liability. the cover up is worse than the "crime," etc.

but as this has all gone on, i've felt worse and worse for Wiener. i really have. i wish he had just said, "i mistakenly posted that photo to a public account and it was meant to be private. who or what i send private photos of is none of your fucking business."

i also feel the same way about Lee, honestly. the difference, however, is that anyone can view Craigslist postings, whereas Weiner kept his dealings protected by passwords and private accounts, and he fucked up. that, and Lee belongs to a party that thinks that there's only one correct way to have sex and tries to pass legislation on the basis of that.

and from the bigger perspective, i don't see how this helps anyone, anywhere, or makes any of us better. people should resign when their hypocrisy or corruption or criminal behavior is exposed. not when their (solicited, private, consensual) photos of their cocks are exposed.

i think we deprive ourselves of potentially good leaders by not allowing them to be fallible human beings. and then we revel in the sticky details.
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Wont anyone think of the children? How are we supposed to raise the children if congressmen are doing this? Please, think of the children!!!

Oh, and btw here are private explicit conversations and 20 pictures of his cock.

But yea... children. Think of them.
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he "used his office?" if you are talking about funds you'd have a point. but saying that mentioning he was a Congressman is akin to luring unsuspecting, innocent, naive women into his gingerbread house is really pushing it, and it's really patronizing to these women.

from a political perspective, he's toast, for now. and a liability. the cover up is worse than the "crime," etc.

but as this has all gone on, i've felt worse and worse for Wiener. i really have. i wish he had just said, "i mistakenly posted that photo to a public account and it was meant to be private. who or what i send private photos of is none of your fucking business."

i also feel the same way about Lee, honestly. the difference, however, is that anyone can view Craigslist postings, whereas Weiner kept his dealings protected by passwords and private accounts, and he fucked up. that, and Lee belongs to a party that thinks that there's only one correct way to have sex and tries to pass legislation on the basis of that.

and from the bigger perspective, i don't see how this helps anyone, anywhere, or makes any of us better. people should resign when their hypocrisy or corruption or criminal behavior is exposed. not when their (solicited, private, consensual) photos of their cocks are exposed.

i think we deprive ourselves of potentially good leaders by not allowing them to be fallible human beings. and then we revel in the sticky details.
I am sensing you have some empathy for him

for me, the guy had the world at his feet, most likely NY Mayor and then what??

he has a lovely wife, he is supposed to be intelligent, and we all know that twitter and FB are not really anonymous, anything online, even texts can and will live forever. If anyone is sensing some anger or resentment toward him from me, I admit to it.

I see him as being very selfish, exploiting women and as his ex girlfriend says, misogynistic. These are all voluntary choices he made all by himself.

He opened the doors and repeatedly walked through them. No one made him.

it would be nice if we could go back and have the old Anthony back, but to be honest he is not the person we all believed him to be, perhaps we should be mourning the loss of the idealistic young leader. Now we are left with someone that has no credibilty and who'e integity is questionable. And these were all self inflicted wounds.
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He should definitely resign.

Especially now that it seems like he'll need the extra time to be a father.
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Anthony Weiner's Wife, Huma Abedin, Is Pregnant - NYTimes.com

I think this news makes him look even worse.
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