US rapper and dancer suspects in Tokyo hotel death of female Irish student - Page 2

BVS · 05-29-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by financeguy

You surely don't believe that an industry controlled largely by white males would get away with it?

Actually, entertainment in general, especially music gets away with it. You should try opening your eyes a little bit wider.

But honestly none of this has anything to do with how you framed this thread though. You try TOO hard, and in the process of doing so make yourself look hateful and ignorant. You're better than this.

financeguy · 05-29-2012, 05:27 PM

Rock music's misogynistic? Can we cite some examples? REM? U2? Bruce Springsteen? Arcade Fire? Radiohead? Coldplay? PJ Harvey? Cher?

Implying that rock music is institutionally misogynistic (as opposed to individual artists occasionally displaying elements of misogyny) in the way that hip hop is just isn't a sustainable argument. It simply isn't worth taking seriously and is a complete deflection on the part of those who are either too cowardly or naive to critique elements of black culture for fear of being accused of racism.

If you genuinely don't believe that modern day hip hop is institutionally misogynistic to its core, you either haven't listened to any recently, or don't understand the lyrics.

cobl04 · 05-29-2012, 05:30 PM

Ohh shut the fuck up.

I'm listening to Kanye right now. Might smack a bitch later. Moron.

BVS · 05-29-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by financeguy

It simply isn't worth taking seriously and is a complete deflection on the part of those who are either too cowardly or naive to critique elements of black culture for fear of being accused of racism.

Here we go again with "black culture"

Wow, and you're lecturing others about being taken seriously or being naive?

BVS · 05-29-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by financeguy

Rock music's misogynistic? Can we cite some examples? REM? U2? Bruce Springsteen? Arcade Fire? Radiohead? Coldplay? PJ Harvey? Cher?

If this is white culture, then does that mean if I point out 8 artists that happen to be black and aren't misogynistic does that mean you're wrong about "black culture"?

Jive Turkey · 05-29-2012, 05:36 PM

If financeguy actually tried listening to rap music instead of parroting the bullshit generated in the echo chambers by his ilk, maybe he'd realize how completely stupid he sounds

Jive Turkey · 05-29-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by financeguy

Rock music's misogynistic? Can we cite some examples? REM? U2? Bruce Springsteen? Arcade Fire? Radiohead? Coldplay? PJ Harvey? Cher?

How about half of the hair bands of the 80s? Kiss? Or the Nickelback "I like you better on your knees" brorock? Your head is so far up your tight ass that it's cutting off circulation to your brain

MrsSpringsteen · 05-29-2012, 05:41 PM

Under My Thumb, that was pretty misogynistic. "White culture" music has been full of that throughout history.

cobl04 · 05-29-2012, 05:41 PM

And will he come back and try to argue? Or just disappear like iron horse, indy etc

Jive Turkey · 05-29-2012, 05:42 PM

I'm beginning to suspect they're all the same person

financeguy · 05-29-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

How about half of the hair bands of the 80s? Kiss? Or the Nickelback "I like you better on your knees" brorock? Your head is so far up your tight ass that it's cutting off circulation to your brain

Considering that you are apparently familar with Nickelback lyrics maybe it is you that has your head up your rectal apperture!

cobl04 · 05-29-2012, 05:51 PM

How about addressing your own bullshit?

Jive Turkey · 05-29-2012, 05:51 PM

zing?

Jive Turkey · 05-29-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cobl04

How about addressing your own bullshit?

That would require objective thought

corianderstem · 05-29-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

zing?

It's the risk you take for quoting Nickelback at any given time.

Jive Turkey · 05-29-2012, 05:53 PM

In my defense, I think it's a paraphrase

Jive Turkey · 05-29-2012, 05:54 PM

Who gets the blame when Eminem is misogynistic? Is it black culture's fault still?

BVS · 05-29-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by financeguy

Considering that you are apparently familar with Nickelback lyrics maybe it is you that has your head up your rectal apperture!

So does this mean that you are not even familiar with the rap lyrics or the "black culture" that you are railing against?

MrsSpringsteen · 05-29-2012, 05:58 PM

Eminem is just a white sellout to the black culture. They probably brainwashed him.

Jive Turkey · 05-29-2012, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by financeguy

You surely don't believe that an industry controlled largely by white males would get away with it?

I think this is the key to the whole argument. financeguy is jealous that he can't get away with more misogyny in his day to day life. Otherwise, I have no idea why this angle was even brought up

05-29-2012, 05:27 PM	#22
financeguy ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 10,122 Local Time: 10:03 AM	Rock music's misogynistic? Can we cite some examples? REM? U2? Bruce Springsteen? Arcade Fire? Radiohead? Coldplay? PJ Harvey? Cher? Implying that rock music is institutionally misogynistic (as opposed to individual artists occasionally displaying elements of misogyny) in the way that hip hop is just isn't a sustainable argument. It simply isn't worth taking seriously and is a complete deflection on the part of those who are either too cowardly or naive to critique elements of black culture for fear of being accused of racism. If you genuinely don't believe that modern day hip hop is institutionally misogynistic to its core, you either haven't listened to any recently, or don't understand the lyrics. __________________

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05-29-2012, 05:30 PM	#23
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 59,011 Local Time: 07:03 PM	Ohh shut the fuck up. I'm listening to Kanye right now. Might smack a bitch later. Moron.

05-29-2012, 05:36 PM	#26
Jive Turkey ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,646 Local Time: 05:03 AM	If financeguy actually tried listening to rap music instead of parroting the bullshit generated in the echo chambers by his ilk, maybe he'd realize how completely stupid he sounds

05-29-2012, 05:41 PM	#28
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 28,620 Local Time: 05:03 AM	Under My Thumb, that was pretty misogynistic. "White culture" music has been full of that throughout history.

05-29-2012, 05:42 PM	#30
Jive Turkey ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,646 Local Time: 05:03 AM	I'm beginning to suspect they're all the same person

05-29-2012, 05:51 PM	#32
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 59,011 Local Time: 07:03 PM	How about addressing your own bullshit?

05-29-2012, 05:53 PM	#36
Jive Turkey ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,646 Local Time: 05:03 AM	In my defense, I think it's a paraphrase

05-29-2012, 05:54 PM	#37
Jive Turkey ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,646 Local Time: 05:03 AM	Who gets the blame when Eminem is misogynistic? Is it black culture's fault still?

05-29-2012, 05:58 PM	#39
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 28,620 Local Time: 05:03 AM	Eminem is just a white sellout to the black culture. They probably brainwashed him.