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What evidence are they jumping over that's in favor of Trump? Other than apparently differing versions of what he did or didn't do in his vehicle on January 6th(which they aren't even jumping over as of today). We will see if those two come in to add to their testimony, and I would like to see their entire videos. What he did or didn't do in the car that day hardly makes or breaks their case. It's an attempt to destroy her credibility based on that one aspect.

He wanted to go to the Capitol because he wanted to be in on what he knew was happening. He knew

McCarthy knew, Meadows knew, Rudy knew, Jordan knew, Gaetz knew, Hawley probably knew. Maybe Teddy Cruz knew, maybe some others knew. If any of them want to present evidence in favor of Trump they can testify. Trump could too.
 
Stop me if you've heard this one before.....yet another Honest Adam Schiff-orchestrated committee. And this time, as a bonus, every single member appointed by one party, and the speaker.



in spite of themselves.....the kangaroo court is still doing the country a service getting some new info out to the voting public :up::up:



What does this even mean?
 
Nothing. That’s all the defense of Trump and GQP have.

Trump couldn’t have lunged!!! Have you seen his body, he can’t get himself into that position

A source of a source of the SS said while everything is true about Trump wanting his supporters armed, marching to capital, and to join them in the House of Reps, he didn’t grab his personnel by the neck, it was more the outer delt / shoulder

It’s only going to get worse for them. More and more information will come out. More evidence.

But cheer up, he still will probably be back in WH for 2025
 
WASHINGTON (AP) - The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection issued a subpoena Wednesday to former White House counsel Pat Cipollone, who is said to have stridently warned against former President Donald Trump's efforts to try to overturn his election loss.
 
Stop me if you've heard this one before.....yet another Honest Adam Schiff-orchestrated committee. And this time, as a bonus, every single member appointed by one party, and the speaker.

in spite of themselves.....the kangaroo court is still doing the country a service getting some new info out to the voting public :up::up:

Thanks for your hot take, BW.

He wanted to go to the Capitol because he wanted to be in on what he knew was happening. He knew

Yep. This. Anything to get himself on camera and give him the publicity and photo ops he craves. Look at how he was willing to let BLM protesters get tear-gassed so that he could do that whole thing with the Bible. Not much difference here, really.
 
Stop me if you've heard this one before.....yet another Honest Adam Schiff-orchestrated committee. And this time, as a bonus, every single member appointed by one party, and the speaker.

in spite of themselves.....the kangaroo court is still doing the country a service getting some new info out to the voting public :up::up:

This post is brought to you by Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz.
 
https://twitter.com/alexthomp/status/1542504496164704256?s=21&t=sDvrVMdfKFbjgYDkZZDdAw

Then i hope his team is pressuring the shit out of those senators who are against the carve out

Even if it doesn’t work I’m glad he’s coming out and saying it.

Perception is everything at the moment to show the base, and the majority in this country who want abortion (with some restrictions) made legal

Because what’s coming down the road is really dangerous. Such as states working on legislation to criminalize women crossing state borders for abortion / health care
 
It’s disingenuous to criticize the committee as a Kangaroo Court, regardless of their theatrics and even in the circumstance that they’re bending truths. Doesn’t make that okay, but it’s pretty clear that attacking the integrity of the committee or its formulation is a tactic to deviate from the purpose of the committee.

I'm suggesting that how this particular committee was put together has implications for how hot button committees are put together in the future. Starting as soon as a few months from now, 2023. It's not disingenuous, it will absolutely happen. And it will be 'the end of democracy!!' in some outlets.

Thinking a few years in advance (2025?), it's similar with the idea of abolishing the Senate filibuster. A great idea, just this one time carve-out.....for this, that, and the other thing. And that's just what we've heard from our current senate.

A little times passes, the pendulum swings back again, and suddenly you find yourself in a long-term minority spot. Turns out killing the filibuster's not such a great idea anymore, either :shrug:
 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-jr-cassidy-hutchinson-b2113338.html

Coke boy called Cassidy Hutchinson a coffee girl. Next story will be that she was in love with Trump and he rejected her, and this is her revenge.
 
I'm suggesting that how this particular committee was put together has implications for how hot button committees are put together in the future. Starting as soon as a few months from now, 2023. It's not disingenuous, it will absolutely happen. And it will be 'the end of democracy!!' in some outlets.



Thinking a few years in advance (2025?), it's similar with the idea of abolishing the Senate filibuster. A great idea, just this one time carve-out.....for this, that, and the other thing. And that's just what we've heard from our current senate.



A little times passes, the pendulum swings back again, and suddenly you find yourself in a long-term minority spot. Turns out killing the filibuster's not such a great idea anymore, either :shrug:



I’m not following your point. The ruling house party selected the committee - this has always been the case. They selected folks who agreed with their view from the opposition. That’s always been the case, too.

What you’re describing is the illegitimacy due to a bias. What you’re describing is what literally has destroyed the judicial branch and the Supreme Court. Sure, you can say the opinion of a bunch of a bunch of political hacks who were selected by other political hacks is illegitimate (not sure why in this case but in general sure). How is that any different from what we just witnessed in the Supreme Court?
 
I'm suggesting that how this particular committee was put together has implications for how hot button committees are put together in the future. Starting as soon as a few months from now, 2023. It's not disingenuous, it will absolutely happen. And it will be 'the end of democracy!!' in some outlets.

Thinking a few years in advance (2025?), it's similar with the idea of abolishing the Senate filibuster. A great idea, just this one time carve-out.....for this, that, and the other thing. And that's just what we've heard from our current senate.

A little times passes, the pendulum swings back again, and suddenly you find yourself in a long-term minority spot. Turns out killing the filibuster's not such a great idea anymore, either :shrug:

I’m not following your point. The ruling house party selected the committee - this has always been the case. They selected folks who agreed with their view from the opposition. That’s always been the case, too.

What you’re describing is the illegitimacy due to a bias. What you’re describing is what literally has destroyed the judicial branch and the Supreme Court. Sure, you can say the opinion of a bunch of a bunch of political hacks who were selected by other political hacks is illegitimate (not sure why in this case but in general sure). How is that any different from what we just witnessed in the Supreme Court?

Let's not forget that Kevin McCarthy pulled all of his picks for the committee after Pelosi rejected 2 of them,

He could have let the other 3 get seated and picked replacements for Jordan and Banks.

So Republicans truly can't complain in good faith about the committee's make up.
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_state_legislatures

The GOP control 30 state legislatures. These 30 states have a total of 306 electoral college votes. If SCOTUS rule that state legislators have the ultimate say in how their elections are run and counted then it’s goodnight America.

And this is why I'm willing to take risks with the filibuster and do whatever else we need to do to try and put a stop to this madness. We've already been busy playing like we can't take those kinds of risks because what if the Republicans do it, too? And all that's done is further embolden the Republicans to get more and more extreme in their attempts to retain control and strip away important rights and destroy everything this country holds dear.

So it's like I said over in the gun control thread. Fuck it. Let's just go all in and go bold. It's literally the only way we'll be able to get anything done at this point. And I think that's what most Americans want at this point - they don't care how we get things done, they just want us to get things done. The GOP gets to go as outlandish and bold as they want and they get rewarded for it, or at the very least, they never seem to face any serious consequences for it, not anymore anyway. At least our boldness would actually be for policies that are beneficial to the country at large. When do we get to do something big and have it pay off?

Plus, if we take some actual risks here, maybe our risks could include passing legislation and getting justices that will ensure that the GOP's plans never come to fruition, or that they'll actually suffer serious consequences if they do try and push them through (like, say, their plans to mess with election results).

But the bottom line is that we have to do something. We literally cannot afford to play nice anymore, we literally cannot afford to just sit around doing what we've been doing and hope for the best and hope the turnout is big in November and hope that the GOP doesn't try and screw with the election results in the midterms and so on and so forth. At some point, we need to fight back and start using the GOP's tactics against them.
 
Let's not forget that Kevin McCarthy pulled all of his picks for the committee after Pelosi rejected 2 of them,



He could have let the other 3 get seated and picked replacements for Jordan and Banks.



So Republicans truly can't complain in good faith about the committee's make up.



They are doing everything they can, hand in glove with SCOTUS, to make sure that pendulum stops swinging.
 
those legal bills for seditious conspiracy ain't gonna pay them selves, folks

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https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/30/clarence-thomas-claims-covid-vaccines-are-derived-from-the-cells-of-aborted-children-00043483

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas in a dissenting opinion Thursday suggested that Covid-19 vaccines were developed using the cells of “aborted children.”

The conservative justice’s statement came in a dissenting opinion on a case in which the Supreme Court declined to hear a religious liberty challenge to New York’s Covid-19 vaccine mandate from 16 health care workers. The state requires that all health care workers show proof of vaccination.

"They object on religious grounds to all available COVID–19 vaccines because they were developed using cell lines derived from aborted children,” Thomas said of the petitioners.

None of the Covid-19 vaccines in the United States contain the cells of aborted fetuses. Cells obtained from elective abortions decades ago were used in testing during the Covid vaccine development process, a practice that is common in vaccine testing — including for the rubella and chickenpox vaccinations.
 
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/30/clarence-thomas-claims-covid-vaccines-are-derived-from-the-cells-of-aborted-children-00043483

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas in a dissenting opinion Thursday suggested that Covid-19 vaccines were developed using the cells of “aborted children.”

The conservative justice’s statement came in a dissenting opinion on a case in which the Supreme Court declined to hear a religious liberty challenge to New York’s Covid-19 vaccine mandate from 16 health care workers. The state requires that all health care workers show proof of vaccination.

"They object on religious grounds to all available COVID–19 vaccines because they were developed using cell lines derived from aborted children,” Thomas said of the petitioners.

None of the Covid-19 vaccines in the United States contain the cells of aborted fetuses. Cells obtained from elective abortions decades ago were used in testing during the Covid vaccine development process, a practice that is common in vaccine testing — including for the rubella and chickenpox vaccinations.

There needs to be some sort of mental competence clause to the lifetime appointment of SCOTUS justices, cause this nutjob would fail the test and be forced to retire.
 
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