US Politics XXXIV: Biden Against the Manchine (Live at the Sinema)

LuckyNumber7 · 10-06-2021, 03:12 PM

Yay our government am I right everyone

Bluer White · 10-06-2021, 04:35 PM

Live from the Sinema ladies room, even

Bluer White · 10-06-2021, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irvine511

On this subject …

For the four people still in here who know/care, Memphis and I are actually leaving DC at the end of the month.

West Coast here we come.

Enjoy the change of scenery and milder climes.

Get Kraken !??!

Headache in a Suitcase · 10-07-2021, 08:12 AM

you're getting out of the city at the right time, irvine.

defund the police is quite possibly a dumber political slogan than make america great again, again.

that is all.

Bluer White · 10-07-2021, 08:50 PM

Nothing new under the sun.

Senate votes to extend debt ceiling through early December
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/07/polit...ote/index.html

We can check back again after Turkey Day.

Headache in a Suitcase · 10-08-2021, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluer White

Nothing new under the sun.

Senate votes to extend debt ceiling through early December
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/07/polit...ote/index.html

We can check back again after Turkey Day.

when it's all said and done - McConnell's not an idiot. Schumer, maybe. But McConnell, as evil as he can be, knows exactly what he's doing. He was never going to let this expire - and now he has the democrats committed to a number that the republicans can run on in 2022 - because Mitch knows americans, at the end of the day, are stupid.

and in december he's going to get some other small concession from the democrats. because democrats.

BEAL · 10-08-2021, 01:06 PM

Agree. Mitch might be the best politician in my lifetime as far as getting exactly what he wants. Some of it has been luck, Trump coming into power gifted him 3 SC judges, but he also blocked Garland for nearly a year prior and it paid off.

We read all these reports that the Dems have him right where they want them and they’re wrong. The Dems don’t have the unity that the GOP does.

Despite Cheney and Adam K actually standing up against Trump’s coup, they still vote to default on the debt, and any other GOP position.

The Dems have this one chance to pass legislation cause if they don’t gain seats in 2022, then i don’t see how they overcome the suppression that’s coming in 2024.

LuckyNumber7 · 10-08-2021, 01:17 PM

So where is mcconnell international airport going to be?

LuckyNumber7 · 10-08-2021, 01:19 PM

Speaking of airports, I’m awfully afraid of Palm Beach International becoming Palm Beach-Trump International. It’s ripe for it. An unnamed airport next to his presidential office in a state he calls home.

Irvine511 · 10-08-2021, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEAL

Agree. Mitch might be the best politician in my lifetime as far as getting exactly what he wants. Some of it has been luck, Trump coming into power gifted him 3 SC judges, but he also blocked Garland for nearly a year prior and it paid off.

I don’t know if this makes him a good politician not makes him shameless and ruthless and anti-American.

Hewson · 10-08-2021, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

Speaking of airports, I’m awfully afraid of Palm Beach International becoming Palm Beach-Trump International. It’s ripe for it. An unnamed airport next to his presidential office in a state he calls home.

An airport named after a train wreck.

BEAL · 10-08-2021, 02:50 PM

I don’t like him. I’m saying he wins. He’s a horrible human being and has wrecked our politics.

And if this is true….

https://twitter.com/therickwilson/st...837442561?s=21

mikal · 10-09-2021, 05:56 PM

https://twitter.com/reportsdanews/st...679850496?s=21

Headache in a Suitcase · 10-11-2021, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irvine511

I don’t know if this makes him a good politician not makes him shameless and ruthless and anti-American.

He's not a good politician. He's a masterful politician.

End of the day the result is all that matters to him. He doesn't let little things like ideology and principle get in the way of victory.

It would be great if politicians like this didn't exist. But because they do, and because our system favors them? It would be great if the Democrats had a few, before it's too late.

Irvine511 · 10-11-2021, 08:01 AM

Do you think Democrats and their voters would accept a liberal version of McConnell? Someone willing to ignore process and precedent and democracy itself in order to win?

Headache in a Suitcase · 10-11-2021, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irvine511

Do you think Democrats and their voters would accept a liberal version of McConnell? Someone willing to ignore process and precedent and democracy itself in order to win?

I don't know the answer to that. My guess world be no. But they should.

We're in the midst of a civil cold war and the Democrats are worried about being polite.

I'm not saying they need to do full scorched earth, but at some point they're going to have to wake up to reality.

Take redistricting. New York should gerrymander the shit out of that state.

It's a paradox. In order to change things to the way you want, you're going to have to do some of the things you want to change.

Bluer White · 10-12-2021, 08:17 PM

Biden sees support from independents drop
https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ependents-drop

President Biden has lost support among a key bloc of voters that helped catapult him to the White House: independents.

The current gridlock on Capitol Hill coupled with the messy withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan and his handling of the ongoing crisis at the Mexican border has contributed to the lag in support from independent and more moderate voters.

Recent polls show Biden’s numbers falling drastically with the key demographic.

A Gallup poll last week found Biden’s approval rating among independents falling to 37 percent, the lowest it has been since Biden took office, and slipping 24 points below his 61 percent approval rating at the beginning of his administration.

..........“I think there is definitely some concern that Biden isn’t really doing the things he said he’d be doing, like making things run smoothly again after four tumultuous years,” said one Democratic strategist. “A lot of people feel like they haven’t seen much of that lately, especially if you’re not drinking the Biden Kool-Aid.”

The pendulum is swinging back, again, quick as you like.

Headache in a Suitcase · 10-13-2021, 09:33 AM

of course. he's standing on his own agenda, and right now the agenda is stagnant. COVID is also dragging on (gee, thought it would disappear ~~in the spring when the weather gets hot any day now after election day~~ after january 20?). the numbers will sink.

Trump's favorability on election day was a negative 12.8. It's a negative 8.4 today, which is still worse than Biden's favorability.

So sure - "kool-aid"

LuckyNumber7 · 10-13-2021, 10:05 AM

I’m fine with criticizing Biden. He wasn’t my first choice. But I’m just glad we are criticizing him on the merits of his performance, rather than a giant gaslight en masse.

Headache in a Suitcase · 10-13-2021, 10:41 AM

To again remind everyone what we're dealing with here

https://twitter.com/TrumpsAlert/stat...uXepVGc8w&s=19

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10-07-2021, 08:12 AM	#4
Headache in a Suitcase Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: With the other morally corrupt bootlicking rubes. Posts: 72,043 Local Time: 11:03 PM	you're getting out of the city at the right time, irvine. defund the police is quite possibly a dumber political slogan than make america great again, again. that is all.

10-07-2021, 08:50 PM	#5
Bluer White Refugee Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Maine Posts: 2,474 Local Time: 11:03 PM	Nothing new under the sun. Senate votes to extend debt ceiling through early December https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/07/polit...ote/index.html We can check back again after Turkey Day.

10-08-2021, 01:06 PM	#7
BEAL Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: San Diego Posts: 7,086 Local Time: 03:03 AM	Agree. Mitch might be the best politician in my lifetime as far as getting exactly what he wants. Some of it has been luck, Trump coming into power gifted him 3 SC judges, but he also blocked Garland for nearly a year prior and it paid off. We read all these reports that the Dems have him right where they want them and they’re wrong. The Dems don’t have the unity that the GOP does. Despite Cheney and Adam K actually standing up against Trump’s coup, they still vote to default on the debt, and any other GOP position. The Dems have this one chance to pass legislation cause if they don’t gain seats in 2022, then i don’t see how they overcome the suppression that’s coming in 2024.

10-08-2021, 01:17 PM	#8
LuckyNumber7 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 19,309 Local Time: 10:03 PM	So where is mcconnell international airport going to be?

10-08-2021, 01:19 PM	#9
LuckyNumber7 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 19,309 Local Time: 10:03 PM	Speaking of airports, I’m awfully afraid of Palm Beach International becoming Palm Beach-Trump International. It’s ripe for it. An unnamed airport next to his presidential office in a state he calls home.

10-08-2021, 02:50 PM	#12
BEAL Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: San Diego Posts: 7,086 Local Time: 03:03 AM	I don’t like him. I’m saying he wins. He’s a horrible human being and has wrecked our politics. And if this is true…. https://twitter.com/therickwilson/st...837442561?s=21

10-09-2021, 05:56 PM	#13
mikal Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Black Lodge Posts: 28,067 Local Time: 10:03 PM	https://twitter.com/reportsdanews/st...679850496?s=21

10-11-2021, 08:01 AM	#15
Irvine511 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 34,114 Local Time: 11:03 PM	Do you think Democrats and their voters would accept a liberal version of McConnell? Someone willing to ignore process and precedent and democracy itself in order to win?

10-12-2021, 08:17 PM	#17
Bluer White Refugee Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Maine Posts: 2,474 Local Time: 11:03 PM	Biden sees support from independents drop https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ependents-drop President Biden has lost support among a key bloc of voters that helped catapult him to the White House: independents. The current gridlock on Capitol Hill coupled with the messy withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan and his handling of the ongoing crisis at the Mexican border has contributed to the lag in support from independent and more moderate voters. Recent polls show Biden’s numbers falling drastically with the key demographic. A Gallup poll last week found Biden’s approval rating among independents falling to 37 percent, the lowest it has been since Biden took office, and slipping 24 points below his 61 percent approval rating at the beginning of his administration. ..........“I think there is definitely some concern that Biden isn’t really doing the things he said he’d be doing, like making things run smoothly again after four tumultuous years,” said one Democratic strategist. “A lot of people feel like they haven’t seen much of that lately, especially if you’re not drinking the Biden Kool-Aid.” The pendulum is swinging back, again, quick as you like.

10-13-2021, 09:33 AM	#18
Headache in a Suitcase Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: With the other morally corrupt bootlicking rubes. Posts: 72,043 Local Time: 11:03 PM	of course. he's standing on his own agenda, and right now the agenda is stagnant. COVID is also dragging on (gee, thought it would disappear ~~in the spring when the weather gets hot any day now after election day~~ after january 20?). the numbers will sink. Trump's favorability on election day was a negative 12.8. It's a negative 8.4 today, which is still worse than Biden's favorability. So sure - "kool-aid"

10-13-2021, 10:05 AM	#19
LuckyNumber7 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 19,309 Local Time: 10:03 PM	I’m fine with criticizing Biden. He wasn’t my first choice. But I’m just glad we are criticizing him on the merits of his performance, rather than a giant gaslight en masse.