US Politics XXXIV: Biden Against the Manchine (Live at the Sinema)

[Bluer White]

How charitable of ya, V.

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Opinion: Let’s think about the Russians we are canceling. Not all deserve it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...celing-russia/

As Mr. Putin's war on Ukraine grinds on, here's a good take from the states. Worth keeping in mind.

[LuckyNumber7]

So we should all feel bad for Ovi because of the situation he put himself in?

Nah. I think it’s reasonable to treat everyone as an individual, but that’s an awful point to make. Boo Ovechkin out of the game for all I care. People like him legitimized Putin socially. Of course not every Russian is bad. They’re just like us. Not every American is bad. But Putin is clearly a dick and if you platformed him… fuck you. Wanna talk about brave Russians who deserve your patience and love? Go take a look at someone like Artemi Panarin, not Alexander Ovechkin.

[Bluer White]

My guy Kirill Kaprizov in Minny/Saint Paul.....also innocent!

NHL stars notwithstanding, the point of the op-ed is a good one.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

please

[Headache in a Suitcase]

The fuckers actually made daylight savings time permanent.

We'll see how much people actually like it when it's 8:30 and still pitch black next Christmas.

[LuckyNumber7]

Ok dinosaur. Any concept of changing the clock is archaic.this is a good thing.

[BEAL]

https://twitter.com/kthomasdc/status...942657540?s=21

This happened because she’s a believer in climate change and fossil fuel industries own Congress.

Thanks to GOP and Manchin, our window is basically shut.

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

The fuckers actually made daylight savings time permanent.

We'll see how much people actually like it when it's 8:30 and still pitch black next Christmas.

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

Ok dinosaur. Any concept of changing the clock is archaic.this is a good thing.

I'm all for eliminating switching clocks, but I think the smarter move would be to stay on Standard Time permanently.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by Hewson

I'm all for eliminating switching clocks, but I think the smarter move would be to stay on Standard Time permanently.

Guess that just depends if you’re a morning person.

I for one rail against our traditional 9-5 establishment workforce that commends “early birds” as hard workers who get in at 6 AM and condemns “overworking” people who work until 7 PM as disorganized or somehow less desirable.

The silver lining of Covid was that this mindset crumbled.

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

Guess that just depends if you’re a morning person.

I for one rail against our traditional 9-5 establishment workforce that commends “early birds” as hard workers who get in at 6 AM and condemns “overworking” people who work until 7 PM as disorganized or somehow less desirable.

The silver lining of Covid was that this mindset crumbled.

I'm also thinking about things like children waiting for the school bus in pitch black in December & January.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by Hewson

I'm also thinking about things like children waiting for the school bus in pitch black in December & January.

This already exists, so I’m not sure what point you’re making? Want to end it? I take you back to my point. Stop having a society centric around the early morning “hard worker.” Why does high school start at 7:30?

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Citing crime concerns, Amazon pulls workers from office at former Macy’s in downtown Seattle
https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...acys/#comments

The office’s 1,800 employees have been working remotely during the pandemic; rather than returning to the desks they left over two years ago, workers will move to other locations in South Lake Union. Remote work is still an option for Amazon employees.

“Given recent incidents near 3rd and Pine, we’re providing employees currently at that location with alternative office space elsewhere,” the spokesperson said in an emailed statement. “We are hopeful that conditions will improve and that we will be able to bring employees back to this location when it is safe to do so.”

.....Addressing safety concerns is a “precondition” for many employers considering bringing workers back to the office, said Jon Scholes, president and CEO of the Downtown Seattle Association.

In a survey of 200 employers last December, 70% said they believed they would bring workers back to the office for the majority of the week — but the most important condition holding them to that decision was action to address homelessness and public safety, he said.

.....Seeing Amazon leave the area, if only temporarily, is demoralizing, Bisio said.

“It sends a very negative message to our clients and to the community on the state of affairs of downtown Seattle,” he said. “We pray that there will be a time in the future that people can bring their family downtown in the evening, feel safe to shop, walk the streets and go to restaurants. That is not the case today.”

A self-described eternal optimist, Bisio says Mario’s wants to “fight for the resilience of Seattle.”

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

This already exists, so I’m not sure what point you’re making? Want to end it? I take you back to my point. Stop having a society centric around the early morning “hard worker.” Why does high school start at 7:30?

Well I wasn't referring to high schoolers, I was referring to elementary school children, who currently do not leave for school in the dark (at least most places), but will be doing so if we go to permanent DST. But I'm sure you'll come back with a retort that a society that forces 6-11 year old's to get out of bed before noon is oppressive or something,.

[LuckyNumber7]

Thanks for ignoring my point and choosing to be a giant dick about it.

Your kids don’t need to be up before sunrise, look in the mirror. CLeVeR rEtOrt. Fucking asshole.

[Hewson]

Man you just can't take a joke can you?

But thanks for the name calling.

[LuckyNumber7]

Yeah that was a total joke written with all kinds of humor in it, and not someone doubling down on your self-perceived superiority.

Originally Posted by Hewson

But I'm sure you'll come back with a retort that a society that forces 6-11 year old's to get out of bed before noon is oppressive or something,.

As someone who struggles with insomnia with no real indication as to why and hasn’t woken up rested in years, fuck your superiority complex. Sorry, I mean “joke.”

[Hewson]

How you get superiority out of that is way beyond me.
I was explaining my reasoning for thinking sticking with standard time is preferable to DST if we go to a single time.
I added the last sentence cause your previous replies all included a similar retort. If you don't find it humorous, my apologies, think of it as a preemptive strike then, but it was not intended with any malice.

I mean you can't just have a back and forth discussion. I never said anything demeaning or degrading towards you, never said or indicated that I had any "self-perceived superiority".

No idea where you got that idea from.
I'm trying to just discuss the topic form a differing viewpoint,
You on the other hand called me a "giant dick" and a "fucking asshole".

I'm done.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by Hewson

I added the last sentence cause your previous replies all included a similar retort.

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

The silver lining of Covid was that this mindset crumbled.

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

Why does high school start at 7:30?

Originally Posted by Hewson

But I'm sure you'll come back with a retort that a society that forces 6-11 year old's to get out of bed before noon is oppressive or something,.

This level of attempted gaslight is not like you. There’s no “similar retort” here at all. Your response is dismissive and disparaging of my point of view “because it’s me.” That is evident with how you start the sentence. My comments, on the other hand, were clearly inviting the conversation of why we enforce these early morning regimens in the first place.

I mean you can't just have a back and forth discussion. I never said anything demeaning or degrading towards you

You’re kidding, right? Here’s the thing, I’d love to say “but I’m sure you’ll come back with some gaslighting retort” but honestly this is way out of character for you. Of course what you said was offensive, precisely because of the way you worded it.

[Irvine511]

Call me a Luddite and resistant to progress, but I kind of like changing the clocks. It’s a sign of seasons changing, time moving forward, and a way to mark and understand different times of the year. Kind of how we have and celebrate holidays.

But if I had to choose, there’s something sexy and European about 8:30am sunsets, although our croissants generally aren’t as good. And I like the darkness of the Christmas season — it’s the whole reason Christians co-opted the pagan solstice holiday to begin with. 4:30pm sunsets are tolerable precisely because of all the lights.

January and February suck tho, and are generally irredeemable. And high school absolutely starts too early. As a night owl, I hated it, and it’s terrible for teenagers.

Let’s just be sure we avoid the Aussie roadmap on this issue. Madness in that country.