US Politics XXXIV: Biden Against the Manchine (Live at the Sinema)

[mikal]

Originally Posted by Bluer White

You're right, that was a bad analogy on my part. And I apologize.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by BEAL

Seem to recall Biden's vote being played on Saddam TV, like Russia state television is playing the Orange man's comments

Tucker’s, too.

[Bluer White]

Originally Posted by mikal

Imagine if a percentage of Americans sided with Saddam in 1990.

Let me try it again.

What percentage of Americans are supporting Mr. Putin's bloody invasion of Ukraine? And who are they?

[DeVaul]

Originally Posted by Bluer White

Let me try it again.



What percentage of Americans are supporting Mr. Putin's bloody invasion of Ukraine? And who are they?

A very small percentage. From all indications they’re wacko white “conservative” “Christians” who support and vote Republican.

https://twitter.com/rightwingwatch/s...839153168?s=21

[Bluer White]

To be honest, since the invasion began I'm frustrated reading how the Ukraine-Russian conflict is being characterized in here. It's exactly like the last half decade of the Russian collusion hoax.

This war is not Trump-centric. It's not about Trump.

Like Lucky said, what's going on today is 'arguably the most destabilizing moment in the past 80 years for western society. ' Agreed! Let's hope it doesn't turn out that way. In the meantime, this is more than a destabilizing time for Ukraine. They're fighting their asses off in an awful moment.

[DaveC]

Originally Posted by mikal

Man, in retrospect, that may have been one of the least intelligent comments ever made in this forum, and there have been a lot of those over the years.

it wasn't great, but that post wasn't even in the top 50 lol.

gzuzfrk (ordinary spring) alone had at least a hundred FYM posts worse than that one. let alone AEON (white people invented everything), orgorporoapoop (hillary eats babies? just asking questions), deep (glorified hyperbole), STING2 (resolution 1441 or death), or any of the other honest brokers we've had here over the years.

i wish i had the time to really comb through the archives of this forum and come up with a true hall of shame, there would be some real whoppers on that list.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by Bluer White

Check President Biden's 1991 Gulf War vote. Does that mean he was rooting for Saddam Hussein?



I think not.

Sit this one out.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by Bluer White

Let me try it again.



What percentage of Americans are supporting Mr. Putin's bloody invasion of Ukraine? And who are they?

You, by supporting the previous president.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by Bluer White

To be honest, since the invasion began I'm frustrated reading how the Ukraine-Russian conflict is being characterized in here. It's exactly like the last half decade of the Russian collusion hoax.



This war is not Trump-centric. It's not about Trump.



Like Lucky said, what's going on today is 'arguably the most destabilizing moment in the past 80 years for western society. ' Agreed! Let's hope it doesn't turn out that way. In the meantime, this is more than a destabilizing time for Ukraine. They're fighting their asses off in an awful moment.

Fuck it's not.

Four years of destabilizing the west led to this moment. And your guy, who was put in place with Putin's help, played a major part in that weakening of the west. This isn't something that happened in a vacuum.

And here we are - at a point where we can't do shit about it.

You don't get off this easy.

[Moonlit_Angel]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

Tucker’s, too.

I remember, years ago, during the Obama years, commenting on how odd it was to hear so many on the right praising Putin so openly. Fox News would go on and on about how "strong" Putin was compared to Obama.

The signs had been there for quite a few years, and they came to full fruition during the Trump era.

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

Fuck it's not.

Four years of destabilizing the west led to this moment. And your guy, who was put in place with Putin's help, played a major part in that weakening of the west. This isn't something that happened in a vacuum.

And here we are - at a point where we can't do shit about it.

You don't get off this easy.

A-fucking-men. It's well past time for Trump supporters to own up and take responsibility for their role in enabling and allowing Trump to run rampant for as long as he did. This is what their "own the libs" bullshit has led us to, and they need to be held accountable for it, in every way possible.

[Bluer White]

Originally Posted by Moonlit_Angel

I remember, years ago, during the Obama years, commenting on how odd it was to hear so many on the right praising Putin so openly.

The Obama administration vis-à-vis Russia? Let's not go there either.

This war of choice is on Mr. Putin, period.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by Bluer White

To be honest, since the invasion began I'm frustrated reading how the Ukraine-Russian conflict is being characterized in here. It's exactly like the last half decade of the Russian collusion hoax.



This war is not Trump-centric. It's not about Trump.



Like Lucky said, what's going on today is 'arguably the most destabilizing moment in the past 80 years for western society. ' Agreed! Let's hope it doesn't turn out that way. In the meantime, this is more than a destabilizing time for Ukraine. They're fighting their asses off in an awful moment.

First, not a hoax. Start by reading the Senate report. Also note the one change requested to the GOP foreign policy platform in 2016 (hint: it involves Ukraine and NATO). And also please remember that congress mandated military aid be sent to Ukraine via a bipartisan vote. Then Trump illegally held up that aid to try to get the Ukrainian government to frame Joe Biden’s son.

It’s the usual GOP crowd who are politicizing this and making it a “this would have never happened under Trump” thing, which is what’s being criticized, along with Trumps continued flattery of Putin, which has been going on for 7 years at this point. The Trump circle — Flynn and Brannon — are openly praising Putin, with Bannon reminding us that there are only two genders in Moscow, and look at us woke weaklings over here.

We can agree that the Ukrainians are fighting like hell, which is also tragic, because the only thing that may sway Putin is domestic unrest at a growing pile of body bags filled with young Russian men.

I hate all of it.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by DaveC

it wasn't great, but that post wasn't even in the top 50 lol.

gzuzfrk (ordinary spring) alone had at least a hundred FYM posts worse than that one. let alone AEON (white people invented everything), orgorporoapoop (hillary eats babies? just asking questions), deep (glorified hyperbole), STING2 (resolution 1441 or death), or any of the other honest brokers we've had here over the years.

i wish i had the time to really comb through the archives of this forum and come up with a true hall of shame, there would be some real whoppers on that list.

It was Iron Horse who thought racism was just “glorified hyperbole” and that all of us have ancestors who were slaves at one point so let’s get over it.

[LuckyNumber7]

Yeah, deep surprisingly has a solid track record.

[Bluer White]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

It’s the usual GOP crowd who are politicizing this and making it a “this would have never happened under Trump” thing, which is what’s being criticized.

Folks are free to criticize anyone, of course. I'm not ready to criticize any American president or party for what's going on in Eastern Europe right now. Mr. Putin is to blame. Our president and congress are united in support of Ukraine.

For me, anything else is a distraction and unconstructive.

Btw, I hate it all too.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Oh I support a party that praises Putin and has weakened Ukraine's ability to defend itself - literally changing the party's platform "mysteriously" at the last second at the 2016 convention in what, I dunno, must've been part of a hoax or something tee hee.

But I don't want to talk about that, for it would be a distraction and unconstructive!

[Headache in a Suitcase]

I voted for this, but please, let's not speak about the past. It's unconstructive.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by Bluer White

Folks are free to criticize anyone, of course. I'm not ready to criticize any American president or party for what's going on in Eastern Europe right now. Mr. Putin is to blame. Our president and congress are united in support of Ukraine.



For me, anything else is a distraction and unconstructive.



Btw, I hate it all too.

I agree with this.

[Irvine511]

Biden has a SCOTUS nominee.

This seems like a great moment for the GOP to appear reasonable and interested in governing, but you know they won’t be able to resist getting racist.

[DaveC]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

It was Iron Horse who thought racism was just “glorified hyperbole” and that all of us have ancestors who were slaves at one point so let’s get over it.

right.

apologies to deep, if you're still lurking around these parts.