US Politics XXXIV: Biden Against the Manchine (Live at the Sinema)

[BEAL]

Originally Posted by Jerry Dunk

The Democrats verbalize that they want people to take January 6th very seriously, but then they take no action to hold anyone accountable, and then make their big stars of the day yesterday Dick Cheney and Lin-Manuel Miranda.

Goes all the way to DOJ

https://twitter.com/eliehonig/status...439081475?s=21

[Headache in a Suitcase]

https://www.thebulwark.com/i-spent-i...-steve-bannon/

[BEAL]

https://twitter.com/muellershewrote/...283164161?s=21

So incredibly stupid, and has to be illegal right ?

[Bluer White]

Dems' filibuster conundrum: It's not just Manchin and Sinema
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...er-vote-526863

Mark Kelly is undecided. Jon Tester likes a talking filibuster but is “not crazy” about making an exception for elections reform. And Jeanne Shaheen is promoting more modest changes.

......Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.), who helped organize a bipartisan letter backing up the legislative filibuster in 2017, said he’s “seriously weighing” what to do.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

They could also, ya know, win more seats.

[BEAL]

I really do hope Garland is up for this moment.

https://twitter.com/noahshachtman/st...117449222?s=21

https://twitter.com/noahshachtman/st...293318656?s=21

https://twitter.com/noahshachtman/st...132918274?s=21

And there’s this

https://twitter.com/spiroagnewghost/...349911042?s=21

[BEAL]

https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1481...499821568?s=21

And voting rights legislation is dead

[BEAL]

https://twitter.com/ronbrownstein/st...277197312?s=21

At least some great news on Oath Keeper leader and others being charged.

[DaveC]

this happened today in the baghdad green zone 2 people wounded.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...bassy_baghdad/

[Bluer White]

Originally Posted by DaveC

this happened today in the baghdad green zone 2 people wounded.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...bassy_baghdad/

Thank you for keeping us apprised of the news there. One rocket hit a school?

This stuff doesn't always make news in the U.S. But from reading your link and some other articles, seems like the Green Zone defense batteries go to work frequently enough that we should take more notice back home. I wasn't aware. Wonder how many non-combatants live or serve there in the safe? zone...

[BEAL]

https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/s...565745670?s=21

https://twitter.com/beschlossdc/stat...576840199?s=21

In for a wild ride. Not sure “More turnout!!” Is gonna matter but there’s no other option since Dems can’t pass shit

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by BEAL

https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/s...565745670?s=21

https://twitter.com/beschlossdc/stat...576840199?s=21

In for a wild ride. Not sure “More turnout!!” Is gonna matter but there’s no other option since Dems can’t pass shit

We need to realize that this year, and for the foreseeable future, you are either for democracy or you’re not.

You can possibly prefer many GOP “positions” — they don’t have many beyond obstruction … maybe tax cuts for the wealthy and a willingness to punish trans kids — and still realize that if you vote for them, you are voting to strip the electorate of choice. They’ve told us what they will do with power, so policy is entirely beyond the point here.

If you would like to continue to live in a democracy, you must vote for Democrats, inept as they may appear.

[BEAL]

Agree and it’s why the GOP need to dismantle voting rights and election security / integrity

They know their policies (if you can call it that) is tax cuts for rich / corporations, dismantling government and basic human rights

None of these are a win for them.

One take i read really sums up where we are. The people who may run the government in next year are those who would rather ingest horse dewormer and drink their own piss than take a safe and effective vaccine.

There’s only one choice going forward for the survival of this country.

It seems easy but reality is showing other. The media holds the Dems to impossible standards of governance, while the GOP gets a complete free pass.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

We need to realize that this year, and for the foreseeable future, you are either for democracy or you’re not.

You can possibly prefer many GOP “positions” — they don’t have many beyond obstruction … maybe tax cuts for the wealthy and a willingness to punish trans kids — and still realize that if you vote for them, you are voting to strip the electorate of choice. They’ve told us what they will do with power, so policy is entirely beyond the point here.

If you would like to continue to live in a democracy, you must vote for Democrats, inept as they may appear.

You're not wrong, but the sign that we're fucked isn't BEAL's hysteria. It's Virginia.

And on Virginia - it wasn't CRT like the media wants to think. It's simpler than that. Virginia kept schools closed and virtual longer than anyone else in the region, including DC which is crazy cause we were as hard core as anyone. That is what turned enough NoVa parents.

Because despite how much we want to argue over this and that, the majority of voters don't give a shit. They vote based on what impacts their day to day.

With one exception, it seems - and that's Trump. People just hate that fucker. Which is ultimately a good thing if he becomes the candidate. I'd be more concerned if the GOP nominated someone like DeSantis - Trump without Trump.

[phanan]

Yeah, I think I'd be more worried about Trump. He's proven it over and over. DeSantis is Trump lite and has nowhere the same reach.

[BEAL]

Think the bigger issue is that you get a race like Virginia where parents were upset about school closures and on the first day Governor strikes down mask and vaccine mandates

Right in middle of a surge. So you’re still going to have closures or very least chaos with sick kids and teachers. People keep voting with feelings and not facts. Has been this way for a long time, and it’s a big reason we are where we are

He may not be Trump but the GOP is all Trumpism now

Tax cuts
Guns
Anti science
CRT - which is the opening to bans against LBGT

I don’t know how sustainable it is for half the country’s states rejecting Federal law, and this is true when GOP is at the executive

DeSantis has already said he will fight the Vaccine Mandate for healthcare workers which was upheld by the GOP led Supreme Court.

It’s a death cult for sure and i don’t know what can change this path we are on.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by BEAL

Think the bigger issue is that you get a race like Virginia where parents were upset about school closures and on the first day Governor strikes down mask and vaccine mandates

Right in middle of a surge. So you’re still going to have closures or very least chaos with sick kids and teachers. People keep voting with feelings and not facts. Has been this way for a long time, and it’s a big reason we are where we are

He may not be Trump but the GOP is all Trumpism now

Tax cuts
Guns
Anti science
CRT - which is the opening to bans against LBGT

I don’t know how sustainable it is for half the country’s states rejecting Federal law, and this is true when GOP is at the executive

DeSantis has already said he will fight the Vaccine Mandate for healthcare workers which was upheld by the GOP led Supreme Court.

It’s a death cult for sure and i don’t know what can change this path we are on.

Yea - I know. And the same suburban mothers who turned out in force against Trump all voted for him just 11 months removed from January 6.

That's what frightens me. Not Trump running again in 2024... he's a deplatformed mess at this point. People hate him. He lost 2020 in a landslide.

What would worry me is someone who uses Trump's platform and is willing to cheat all the same, but who is likable and doesn't bring our crazy strong emotions one way or the other. That's the person who I'm terrified of - not the blubbering soon to be bankrupt and probably indicted slob from Florida.

[BEAL]

I hope he’s indicted. Justice needs to be impartial and fair, it sure appears as tho there’s enough over his entire life let alone the last four years to go off of. Obstruction of Justice from Mueller days would be the first To go

I agree that the worst threat would be authoritarian without the warts of a Buffoon like Trump.

[Irvine511]

The thing about Trump is that if the GOP nominee isn’t trump then Trump will set his dumb phasers to kill and try to destroy the not-Trump nominee.

[BEAL]

Trump is actually a moderate when the topic is vaccines. He created the monster and now even he can’t tame it.

NYTimes article saying the RNC is suggesting no Presidential Debates. I’m actually ok with it because they’re not worth it anymore. Especially with Trump.

But there’s nothing to debate when your party doesn’t have a platform