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Old 12-16-2021, 03:09 PM   #381
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Well there ya go with that both sides-isms. As if riots, which are a feature of urban life and have been for hundreds of years, are remotely comparable to an attempted coup and the disruption of hundreds of years of a peaceful transition of power.
Nah, riots aren't a feature of urban life any more than cancer is a feature of human life.

I do wonder, and wondered that afternoon last January, if the Capitol riot would be the event that cemented President Trump failing in any re-election try in '24.
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there were plenty of riots and near riots in downtown DC in 2020.

if that was all January 6 was? we wouldn't be talking about it right now. if the same typical fights between the proud boys and counter protesters took place - even if they were even more violent than what occurred in December? if they were on par with what we saw in Minneapolis or Wisconsin or Portland? we wouldn't be talking about it right now.

any attempt to compare the protests/riots/whatever you want to call them that from the summer of 2020 through December to what occurred on January 6th is the most bad faith of bad faith arguments ever created. they are not the same.

but of course you know that already.
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It seems you want libs to fail more than you want America to succeed?
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It seems you want libs to fail more than you want America to succeed?
Isn't that the goal of all Republicans? They don't have any ideas of their own. They just want America to fail.
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Isn't that the goal of all Republicans? They don't have any ideas of their own. They just want America to fail.


Aside from tax cuts for the wealthy, yes.
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Obviously.
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It seems you want libs to fail more than you want America to succeed?
Think again

Although it seems I'm with the majority of the Senate on this bill, 'BBB.'

Negotiations restart after the holidays.
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I’m always surprised at the lack of expedience of our government. After the holidays? I have never fucking understood why all these powerful people get a billion days off a year. I get Christmas Day off. That’s it.

Fuck your recess. Get back to fucking work you lazy pieces of children chicken shit.
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I’m always surprised at the lack of expedience of our government. After the holidays? I have never fucking understood why all these powerful people get a billion days off a year. I get Christmas Day off. That’s it.

Fuck your recess. Get back to fucking work you lazy pieces of children chicken shit.
Ha!

It's no wonder our elected reps hang on forever and a day.
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I’m always surprised at the lack of expedience of our government. After the holidays? I have never fucking understood why all these powerful people get a billion days off a year. I get Christmas Day off. That’s it.

Fuck your recess. Get back to fucking work you lazy pieces of children chicken shit.
Well the actual intent of this time is so they can go home and press the flesh and talk with their constituents and all.

A few actually still do that. Most just take vacay.

Another of our many things that made sense on the 17/1800s but makes no sense now - like the electoral college or the second amendment.
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Although it seems I'm with the majority of the Senate on this bill, 'BBB.'



Negotiations restart after the holidays.


Dunno, the joy you find in the obstacles put in front of the current administration suggests otherwise.

The majority of the Senate certainly represents a minorty of actual voters.

What is it you object to in BBB? Insulin? The child tax credit? The lives of poor red states getting better even if we continue their dependence on wealthy blue state federal dollars?
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i really don't understand why some of you are so hostile to BW. did i miss something?

BW seems pretty reasonable to me but it often feels like some of you react like they're gzusfrk's alt saying crazy shit.

like they literally just posted a youtube clip of the president's press secretary speaking, without comment, and then was immediately accused of being a perv and wanting america to fail. what the hell is that about?
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i really don't understand why some of you are so hostile to BW. did i miss something?

BW seems pretty reasonable to me but it often feels like some of you react like they're gzusfrk's alt saying crazy shit.

like they literally just posted a youtube clip of the president's press secretary speaking, without comment, and then was immediately accused of being a perv and wanting america to fail. what the hell is that about?


Being a perv?

I don’t find BW’s positions that objectionable (although it’s tough sometimes to figure out what the position is — there’s a lot of playing coy), and he’s capable of reason discussion (unlike most of the conservatives for the last 15 years). I think there’s a disingenuousness that causes the eye rolling, as well as an unwillingnesses to grapple with Trump.

I have several folks like this in my life. They find Trump stupid and disgusting, but liberals are so annoying and make them feel bad about existing, so their criticisms are one sided, and anything less than perfection from the left is celebrated as a defeat, and if Trump doesn’t pee on the stage then he’s applauded as “presidential.”
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I think it goes both ways. He might come off as disingenuous because he thinks it’s not worth stating his opinion if it results in crucifixion. That makes it challenging because we’ve seen those people here before and they have secretly harbored some near KKK bullshit.
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i really don't understand why some of you are so hostile to BW. did i miss something?

BW seems pretty reasonable to me but it often feels like some of you react like they're gzusfrk's alt saying crazy shit.

like they literally just posted a youtube clip of the president's press secretary speaking, without comment, and then was immediately accused of being a perv and wanting america to fail. what the hell is that about?


Being a perv?

I don’t find BW’s positions that objectionable (although it’s tough sometimes to figure out what the position is — there’s a lot of playing coy), and he’s capable of reason discussion (unlike most of the conservatives for the last 15 years). I think there’s a disingenuousness that causes the eye rolling, as well as an unwillingnesses to grapple with Trump.

I have several folks like this in my life. They find Trump stupid and disgusting, but liberals are so annoying and make them feel bad about existing, so their criticisms are one sided, and anything less than perfection from the left is celebrated as a defeat, and if Trump doesn’t pee on the stage then he’s applauded as “presidential.”
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