US Politics XXXII: Cancel my subscription to the insurrection
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LuckyNumber7
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They’re resigning now because if in response to this event they do not disavow the administration they can kiss their political future outside of trumpism goodbye if he is impeached again or 25th’d. If Trump is removed he cannot run again, and I think it’s safe to say that anyone who goes down with his ship is in the same circumstance. Hence why Pence might actually consider the 25th... if anything from here on out happens like a repeat of yesterday, it’s game over for Pence’s political future. He isn’t Teflon Don - none of them are.
Vincent Vega
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45% of registered Republican voters and 21% Independents, along with 2% of registered Democrats in this poll watched TV and thought, "Yup, good on you!"
https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/01/06/US-capitol-trump-poll
https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/01/06/US-capitol-trump-poll
Vincent Vega
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These people just kept their intentions so well hidden.
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namkcuR
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I am deeply skeptical about Congress being able to impeach.
One, the House had to conduct an investigation and the Senate had a week long trial last time, and there probably isn’t time to do those things in two weeks. Is Congress allowed to just say “fuck all that, let’s just vote”?
Two, you need 2/3 - 66 votes - in the Senate to remove him. Right now - Warnock and Ossoff are not seated yet - we have 48 Democratic votes. Are there going to be 18 GOP Senators willing to make that vote?
The 25th seems more likely.
One, the House had to conduct an investigation and the Senate had a week long trial last time, and there probably isn’t time to do those things in two weeks. Is Congress allowed to just say “fuck all that, let’s just vote”?
Two, you need 2/3 - 66 votes - in the Senate to remove him. Right now - Warnock and Ossoff are not seated yet - we have 48 Democratic votes. Are there going to be 18 GOP Senators willing to make that vote?
The 25th seems more likely.
LuckyNumber7
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Hewson
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david
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I honestly don't think anything will be done.
The Republicans will be counting down the hours and wondering how much damage Trump can possibly caused when he's been totally isolated and social media networks are finally willing to cut him off. Nobody will organize a rally for him, and they'll do a risk:benefit analysis and conclude that it's better to pretend like everything is fine and wait him out.
The X factor are the members of the mob and what they do next but they seem very decentralized and unless the Trump children start inciting I'm just not sure they have what it takes to organize into anything serious.
The Republicans will be counting down the hours and wondering how much damage Trump can possibly caused when he's been totally isolated and social media networks are finally willing to cut him off. Nobody will organize a rally for him, and they'll do a risk:benefit analysis and conclude that it's better to pretend like everything is fine and wait him out.
The X factor are the members of the mob and what they do next but they seem very decentralized and unless the Trump children start inciting I'm just not sure they have what it takes to organize into anything serious.
mikal
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One thing to keep in mind too is that there is a number of Republicans whom Trump has potential blackmail material on. Pay close to who is "outraged" but not enough to say we should invoke the 25th (looking at you Lady G)
LuckyNumber7
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MrsSpringsteen
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I read that if Trump was impeached Pence could pardon him.
mikal
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Can impeachment hearings happen after his presidency is done? I think Impeachment is important because it would prevent him from running for office again.
I'd actually prefer that over the 25th amendment. If he's really fleeing the White House, I don't really think he's going to come out in public again for the next 2 weeks.
I'd actually prefer that over the 25th amendment. If he's really fleeing the White House, I don't really think he's going to come out in public again for the next 2 weeks.
I honestly think the 25th is problematic in this context IF the goal is to prevent further carnage.
For Pence, who has now been declared a traitor by the mob, to start a process that puts him in the role of Acting President while Trump fights back (no way is he gong to agree that he's not competent mentally) would only further convince the lunatics that the "swamp" is against them and that this was all a coup and so on. They'd become unhinged overnight and would squarely turn on the remaining Republicans other than the current crop of standouts like Cruz and Hawley. I just don't see how this is in any way palatable to the GOP.
For Pence, who has now been declared a traitor by the mob, to start a process that puts him in the role of Acting President while Trump fights back (no way is he gong to agree that he's not competent mentally) would only further convince the lunatics that the "swamp" is against them and that this was all a coup and so on. They'd become unhinged overnight and would squarely turn on the remaining Republicans other than the current crop of standouts like Cruz and Hawley. I just don't see how this is in any way palatable to the GOP.
dazzledbylight
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Headache - is it "cancel my subscription to the
resurrection..." The Doors (not googled).
How are and your family today?
Irving? LN7? How r u?
Too tired to be more coherent for now. Later.
resurrection..." The Doors (not googled).
How are and your family today?
Irving? LN7? How r u?
Too tired to be more coherent for now. Later.
MrsSpringsteen
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Reporter on CNN just said that if he was impeached Congress could then pass legislation declaring that he could never run again. That would be the ultimate goal.
No way is there enough time to impeach him now.
No way is there enough time to impeach him now.
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Hewson
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I'm certain he knows that based on his people are strange comment.
And yes the thread tittle is a play on that lyric.
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MrsSpringsteen
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Eight foot high metal fence going up around the Capitol. Capitol police chief resigning.
MrsSpringsteen
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CNN reporting that a Capitol police officer has died. They didn't say if the officer was injured or shot by a rioter.
Sure there is. You don’t need a giant trial. Present the articles, take vote. Send to senate and let those traitors been seen by the world
Irvine511
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Totally fine. Kept my phone fully charged yesterday, just in case, but I’m far enough away that it was no problem. Thank you for asking.
Irvine511
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Well we know we wouldn't need witnesses
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