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Old 01-13-2021, 07:41 PM   #241
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I don't believe that Trump will go away because he is pardoned. Nothing will make him go away, short of prison or death. He lost the election, and his pathological narcissism will make him obsess on that 24/7.

He cannot run in 2024. No way, no how. Yes Trumpism and all the evil it spawns will exist regardless. But whatever it takes to prevent him from running again, I am all for it.
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Old 01-13-2021, 07:46 PM   #242
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To those who don’t potentially support a pardon for Trump, you do realize the likelihood he would ever be convicted of a crime for his tweeting is zero right? He’s on trial for something uniquely (un)presidential. Never let him hold public office again. That is justice needed to make peace. A pardon for a crime with no punishment other punishment is irrelevant. Let the SDNY prosecute him for the 99999 other crimes he has committed.

If the senate votes to convict and the pardon allows him to run in 2024 ... dont do it.

But if you grant him a pardon of no legal consequence, you clean yourself of this man and make him go away. If you come down hard on him and he’s still able to perform political theater, this man will continue to embolden extremism in America out of his own selfishness.


Let’s look at it as a pure political move.

Do you think after all the democratic base has done since 2018 they would see a Biden pardon as reward for their hard work? 2018 midterms were seen as a check on Trumps last two years, which arguably ended up being the worst.

The 2020 election was a complete rejection of Trump carried by mostly burbs and minority voters.

Does a pardon risk alienating them for 2022 or even 2024 when they see that’s all their effort went towards ?

We can agree to disagree but I’m strongly against giving this man any sort of out. Let it play out in the courts. If they convict him, great. If they don’t, i accept that too.

This country is in big risk of becoming a Russia type government. It took less than 10 or so years for Putin to take control and hes not going to lose it.
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Sedition is a crime not unique to the presidency
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Yeah, I don't want him pardoned, either, whether he winds up going to jail or not. We need to draw a line in the sand, and this looks like a pretty damn good line to draw.

Plus, if Biden did that, that would turn off virtually every Democrat who voted for him. And it'd piss off the Democrats in Congress, too. I doubt he's even considering the option, myself, but if he were, I get the feeling there's a whole lot of people going, "No. Do not go there."

And honestly, I'm hoping/imagining Trump will be far too busy with whatever other legal battles he and his family will be dealing with to even have time to try and rile up his base. He has very few outlets left to speak from now, and he's in his 70s and he's not healthy. Whether he's convicted or not, pardoned or not, his time is over. We now need to turn our focus towards any younger Republicans who blindly followed Trump's lead, because they'll be more than happy to pick up where he left off, and they've got more years ahead of them to potentially do more damage. We need to stop them in their tracks next, and we can start that process by throwing them out of Congress and keeping them from running for any kind of political office ever again.

But yeah. Don't give Trump even an inch of what he wants as he leaves.

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On a lighter note, regarding Trump's impeachment, here's my favorite comment about it thus far:

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Trump doesn’t want to pay Rudy.

That would be just *chef’s kiss*
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Sedition is a crime not unique to the presidency


Didn’t say it wasn’t. I said he wouldn’t be convicted of such a crime by simple tweet if he weren’t president. The crime is very much so doing what he did as president.
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US Politics XXXII: Cancel my subscription to the insurrection

In case anyone wanted some lols, apparently there’s a Bono impersonator who is also a Trumpster dumpster.

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Just when you thought stupid had a limit.
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In case anyone wanted some lols, apparently there’s a Bono impersonator who is also a Trumpster dumpster.

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Just when you thought stupid had a limit.
And he's in a cover band, so it's not like he can exactly claim that he just listens to the music and never paid much attention to the lyrics.

Wow. Yeah. That is...that is something else.

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Trump doesn’t want to pay Rudy.

That would be just *chef’s kiss*
Aw, are they breaking up already? Gosh, what a shame.

Just imagine the amount of people who are going to get pissed when Trump stiffs them. And in Rudy's case, he'd probably love getting that money back to cover his own legal fees for any investigations into him.

I've also heard that apparently some of Trump's cult followers aren't happy with him, either, after the recent video he put out. They feel like he sold them out and are horrified at the idea that he may not care about them like he said he did.

So much schadenfreude right now, it's truly something else.

And in other news, apparently while Trump was being impeached he was giving the National Medal of the Arts to Toby Keith and Ricky Skaggs. Because, y'know, why not:

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-kno...C7TFPw.twitter
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Now I'm no genius or anything, but something tells me turning on your fancy lawyer who knows all about your criming and stuff, who himself has criminal liability for the whole insurrection thing (amongst other things)?

Probably not a good idea.
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How does any corporation run ads on Foxnews????

And how the hell does MATH not work anymore.

74 million Americans voted and deserve to have their voices heard!!

Yes, but not as loudly as the 81 million who voted for the winner.

This is pure madness
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So Ivanka and Jared wouldn't let their Secret Service agents use one of the six bathrooms in their fancy DC house. Agents used a bathroom at the nearby Obama home. And the US taxpayers had to foot the bill for a basement apartment rental so agents would have a bathroom.

Javanka actually put a porta potty on the sidewalk, the neighbors were not happy about that

How rude and entitled
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So Ivanka and Jared wouldn't let their Secret Service agents use one of the six bathrooms in their fancy DC house. Agents used a bathroom at the nearby Obama home. And the US taxpayers had to foot the bill for a basement apartment rental so agents would have a bathroom.

Javanka actually put a porta potty on the sidewalk, the neighbors were not happy about that

How rude and entitled
What trash.

But also, what wealthy people (like them...allegedly) would be ok with a disgusting, nasty smelling porta potty on the sidewalk in front of their house? Stinks of nouveau riche.
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So Ivanka and Jared wouldn't let their Secret Service agents use one of the six bathrooms in their fancy DC house. Agents used a bathroom at the nearby Obama home. And the US taxpayers had to foot the bill for a basement apartment rental so agents would have a bathroom.



Javanka actually put a porta potty on the sidewalk, the neighbors were not happy about that



How rude and entitled


It’s like the plot to “The Help 2.”
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Five days left....fingers crossed he doesn’t cause a war
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