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Old 07-01-2020, 09:25 AM   #41
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Some new polls out today so far.

National -
Biden +7
Biden +8
Biden +9

State polls all done by Change Research (C- pollster)

Wis. Biden +8

Pa. Biden +6

N.C. Biden +7

Mich. Biden +5

Fla. Biden +5

Ariz. Biden +7

Seems fairly inline from previous polls except MI which seems a little off

The biggest thing that jumps out

N.C. Senate race
Cunningham +10

Seems like an outlier, as so far he's been up around 3 points or so. Interesting to see further polling supports this or confirms that it is an outlier.
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Old 07-01-2020, 09:53 AM   #43
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Hahahahaha.

Well, I'll tell ya. It always seems that everyone but the white house/Trump/Rep sycophants know that stories like the bounty story will unravel and end up contradicting everything they lied about.

Now we see Trump and the Press Sec. contradict themselves on the same day on this.

But yes, we know that Trump can read. This is pretty big stuff.
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Guess he didn't read Roger's obituary


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Old 07-01-2020, 10:28 AM   #45
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Glad someone is on this. Aside from the fact that it will be all credited to Trump, but hey, it is a very necessary step to avoid financial ruin of a wide range of Americans.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...ments-n1232638
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So it looks like that whole - Trump campaign shake-up and getting him "on message" and not alienating women, suburbanites and minorities is going well.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...76059876401152
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LOL. Where are you Roger Ailes?? Ummmmm... Does anyone wanna tell Donnie?
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Old 07-01-2020, 10:37 AM   #48
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US Politics XXIV: Your Country Sucks

We literally are going to ignore the pandemic and focus on identity politics / race war.

He won’t protect the troops, and now holding up a defense bill to protect the confederacy.

I can’t wait for him to demand college and professional football be played !!! I hereby order you to take the field! Unless you kneel!!!
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So just a quick comment here.

If people think that Trump will now wear a mask because Pence and Moscow Mitch are saying to do it. They are wrong. He will not.

If people think Trump will resign instead of facing reelection. They are wrong. He will not.

Both instances require accepting reality, admitting mistakes, admitting failure. These are something a narcissistic sociopath is unable to do. And thus far Trump has never done.

He just tweeted out yesterday - LONE WARRIOR!!!

This means that he is feeling attacks, and defections now coming on all sides, even from people that have always licked his boots. His personality disorder will only make him dig in more, and take down the whole ship and as many people as he can along with him.
I strongly suspect that Trump will try to leverage a "peaceful transition" (should he lose) to ensure he is not prosecuted for anything.
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one thing that Trump really does not get enough credit for is that he inspires people to reject his own repugnant views:



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Americans Want More, Not Less, Immigration for First Time


WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Thirty-four percent of Americans, up from 27% a year ago, would prefer to see immigration to the U.S. increased. This is the highest support for expanding immigration Gallup has found in its trend since 1965. Meanwhile, the percentage favoring decreased immigration has fallen to a new low of 28%, while 36% think it should stay at the present level.

This marks the first time in Gallup's trend that the percentage wanting increased immigration has exceeded the percentage who want decreased immigration.
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So just a quick comment here.



If people think that Trump will now wear a mask because Pence and Moscow Mitch are saying to do it. They are wrong. He will not.



If people think Trump will resign instead of facing reelection. They are wrong. He will not.



Both instances require accepting reality, admitting mistakes, admitting failure. These are something a narcissistic sociopath is unable to do. And thus far Trump has never done.



He just tweeted out yesterday - LONE WARRIOR!!!



This means that he is feeling attacks, and defections now coming on all sides, even from people that have always licked his boots. His personality disorder will only make him dig in more, and take down the whole ship and as many people as he can along with him.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

You're looking at it way way wrong.

This is a man who's declared bankruptcy multiple times, and when asked about it he said that it made him smart

His ego and narcissism would not prevent his resignation. If he saw it as the only way of self preservation, he would absolutely do it, throw everyone else under the bus, and claim it totally absolves him.

This isn't saying that he WILL resign; only that he will do whatever it takes to save the only thing that matters - himself.
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Glad someone is on this. Aside from the fact that it will be all credited to Trump, but hey, it is a very necessary step to avoid financial ruin of a wide range of Americans.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...ments-n1232638
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The measure would extend the $600 weekly benefit until an individual state’s unemployment level drops below 11 percent for three months. After that, it would reduce the expanded benefit by $100 for every percent that the unemployment rate falls until the state’s unemployment hits 5.5 percent.
This will lead to the fudging of unemployment figures (in both directions depending on the state).
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it's hard for me to describe how much i love this ad:

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I don’t promote the idea of launching a red scare and conflating Vladimir Putin and Soviet Russia/the Cold War as some giant US enemy.

It’s reductive.

Donald Trump is easily manipulated and foes take advantage of it, while he alienates our friends. That’s enough.
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I don’t promote the idea of launching a red scare and conflating Vladimir Putin and Soviet Russia/the Cold War as some giant US enemy.

It’s reductive.

Donald Trump is easily manipulated and foes take advantage of it, while he alienates our friends. That’s enough.
The problem with this is that, regardless of whether or not Donald Trump is an asset or a Patsy? Russia manipulated our elections and continues to do so. They are our biggest adversary in the world right now and we have yet to treat them as such.
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Winning over those swing voters

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-up...symbol-of-hate


Trump: Painting 'Black Lives Matter' On 5th Avenue Would Be 'Symbol Of Hate'
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Never seen numbers like this.

Monmouth poll:

Is the U.S. on the right or wrong track?

18% Right track
74% Wrong track
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The problem with this is that, regardless of whether or not Donald Trump is an asset or a Patsy? Russia manipulated our elections and continues to do so. They are our biggest adversary in the world right now and we have yet to treat them as such.

They’re the biggest adversary to the american people, but they are non competitive and stuck in the Stone Age. China is our biggest adversary, and only Donald Trump could manage to have sullied what used to be two fierce competitors, and used the same obnoxious red-scare logic with China that we used with Russia in the Cold War.

We need to call Donald Trump out for being manipulated by them, but we don’t need to fear them. We need to fear Donald Trump.
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Russia attacked us and continues to do so. That is not hyperbole.
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