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Old 02-14-2018, 11:16 AM   #741
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Shaun White allegedly harassed the female drummer in his band. Article I read said he admitted to sending her harassing and offensive texts.

He wouldn't even take questions from female reporters yesterday.

USA! USA!
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I get not liking Shaun White for both what he's admitted to and been accused of, but what's the "USA! USA!" about?
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I get not liking Shaun White for both what he's admitted to and been accused of, but what's the "USA! USA!" about?
I assume its sarcasm.
Sarcastic Olympic chant.
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I assume its sarcasm.
Sarcastic Olympic chant.
Yes. He also let the flag drag on the ground and aappeared to step on it after he won last night.

I'm sure some people are more upset about that than his alleged harassment of this drummer.
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i quite enjoyed the halfpipe last night -- that was some Grade A, Olympics-only drama.

it's been kind of known for a while that White is a jerk and no one likes him, which is likely true about more elite athletes than we'd care to know. i've read up on the harassment suit and it sounds like he is a jerk, but beyond that ... i don't know, it's feeling a bit Aziz Ansari in that i'm still failing to see how any of this is my business.

the flag thing is an eyeroll to me. he was in a snowsuit on a mountain.
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i quite enjoyed the halfpipe last night -- that was some Grade A, Olympics-only drama.

it's been kind of known for a while that White is a jerk and no one likes him, which is likely true about more elite athletes than we'd care to know. i've read up on the harassment suit and it sounds like he is a jerk, but beyond that ... i don't know, it's feeling a bit Aziz Ansari in that i'm still failing to see how any of this is my business.

the flag thing is an eyeroll to me. he was in a snowsuit on a mountain.
This I agree with....what were they supposed to so, kick him off the team based on allegations?

I also think the American flag thing is stupid. It obviously wasn't intentional.
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SI- Dallas Mavericks. Off to read that.
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This is gross. Can't stomach reading the rest right now.

I really liked how the women said that the locker room was their refuge, that the players always knew how to treat them with respect. Lots of great athletes who are such good people.

I loved one woman's notes, that she told one of these front office guys when he said "in another life would you marry me" and she responded "in another life I'd be a millionaire and own this team and you couldn't handle working for me."
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changing the subject again, but this is an example from the news today of what i was trying to explain re. racism/incitement to racial hatred in France

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ng-joan-of-arc

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French far right attack choice of mixed-race girl for Joan of Arc role
Incitement to racial hatred inquiry launched into abuse over selection for Orleans festival

Angelique Chrisafis

Fri 23 Feb 2018 10.57 GMT First published on Fri 23 Feb 2018 01.30 GMT

A French state prosecutor has opened an inquiry into incitement to racial hatred after the selection of a mixed-race teenager to play the folk heroine Joan of Arc in annual festivities in Orleans was met with racist abuse from far-right social media users.

Mathilde Edey Gamassou, 17, was chosen from 250 girls on Monday to play Joan in a spring festival marking the Catholic warrior saint’s breaking of the English siege of Orleans in 1429.

Gamassou, whose father is from Benin and whose mother is Polish, is to ride a horse through the central city dressed in armour for the celebration which dates back nearly six centuries.

The announcement was met with a stream of posts on Twitter and far-right websites, branding her selection an exercise in “diversity propaganda” and an attempt to rewrite history.

“Joan of Arc was white,” read one Twitter post. “We are white and proud of being white, don’t change our history.”

Another comment, on the anti-Muslim site Resistance Republicaine, complained: “Next year, Joan of Arc will be in a burqa.”

The local radio station France Bleu Orléans reported that two social media accounts were being investigated over incitement to racial hatred after they compared the teenager to a baboon and used a picture of bananas.

The women’s equality minister, Marlene Schiappa, offered her support to the student.

“The racist hatred of fascists has no place in the French republic,” she tweeted on Wednesday.

Benedicte Baranger, the president of the committee in charge of choosing a girl for the role, said she was saddened by some of the reactions.

“This girl was chosen for who she is; an interesting person and a lively spirit,” Baranger said. “She responds to our four criteria – a resident of Orleans for 10 years, a student in an Orleans high school, and a Catholic who gives her time to others. She will deliver our French history to everyone, as have previous Joans before her.”

The Orleans mayor, Olivier Carre, also defended the teenager.

“In 2018, as for 589 years, the people of Orleans will celebrate Joan of Arc played by a young woman who shows her courage, faith and vision,” he wrote on Twitter. “Mathilde has all these qualities.”

Outside school, Gamassou is a student of opera at the prestigious Orleans Conservatory and is learning to fence.

The end of the brutal six-month siege of Orleans was a turning point in the hundred years war between France and England and the first major French victory.

Over the course of the war, between 1337 and 1453, England lost nearly all its territories on the other side of the Channel.

Joan of Arc, who was burned at the stake in 1431, is a heroine for many in France but is particularly venerated by the far right as a symbol of national resistance.

Agence France-Presse contributed to this report
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Morgan Freeman, come onnnnn down...you're the next contestant on The Creep is Wrong.
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On the plus side, we got to see Harvey Weinstein in handcuffs today.
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We ought to test the theory that the older they are, the creepier they get.

Weinstein being the outlier though, but he’s a rapist.
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Possibly Les Moonves. Possibly Kimberly Guilfoyle too.

https://www.thecut.com/2018/07/repor...isconduct.html
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I'm shocked that no one has mentioned this one yet.

..https://www.facebook.com/10770578593...3998484305044/

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The abuse allegations against Rep. Keith Ellison, explained
Why the media has been reluctant to assert whether new claims of domestic violence are credible.
By Ella Nilsen on August 14, 2018 9:36 am


US Rep. Keith Ellison, who is running for Minnesota attorney general, faces new domestic abuse allegations. Sarah Rice/Getty Images
Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) was considered the favorite to win a five-way Democratic primary for attorney general in Minnesota on Tuesday; then he was accused of abuse by a former girlfriend — an accusation he vehemently denies.


On Saturday night, the son of Ellison’s ex-girlfriend Karen Monahan wrote a lengthy Facebook post saying that he saw a video of Ellison grabbing his mother and swearing at her in a bedroom.

This is the second time Ellison has been publicly accused of domestic violence. Another woman, Amy Alexander, spoke out in 2006, going public with her account that Ellison verbally abused her while they were having an affair. She also said he grabbed and pushed her during an argument. Ellison denied even having a relationship with her.

There are several similarities between the accounts: Both women were involved in Minnesota progressive politics, and they described Ellison losing his temper and using threats, verbal harassment, and violence.

But unlike other cases in the #MeToo era, where media outlets, in many cases, have asserted that women endured sexual harassment, assault, or other abusive behavior, the media has been much more ambivalent about asserting whether the claims are reliable.

In the recent case, for example, reporters at local and national outlets haven’t been able to review evidence Monahan herself has pointed to — and thereby confirm whether the alleged abuse took place. Monahan has said she won’t release the video that her son described in the Facebook post. And while she has released dozens of text messages she and Ellison sent to each other, they don’t specifically corroborate violence or verbal abuse. Some texts are obviously cropped in the middle of an exchange.

Alexander ended up in a legal battle with Ellison when he took her to court to get a restraining order, which a judge granted to him. Her counter-request was denied.

Ellison had appeared to be in a strong position in the Minnesota attorney general’s race as of last week. He’d secured the endorsements of Sen. Tina Smith, Gov. Mark Dayton, and 24 current Minnesota state legislators. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) campaigned with him, drawing a crowd of hundreds. Polling is scarce in the (normally) quiet race for state attorney general, so it’s difficult to say exactly where Ellison stands as voters head to the polls.

What we know about the new allegations
On Saturday night, Austin Monahan, the son of Ellison’s ex-girlfriend Karen Monahan, wrote on Facebook that he’d seen video of Ellison abusing his mother.

Karen Monahan had been posting for weeks on social media about an abusive relationship in her past, but she hadn’t named the man. She confirmed her son’s statement in a Sunday tweet, mentioning Ellison and adding, “you know you did that to me.”


Ellison confirmed he was in a relationship with Monahan in a two-line statement, but he denied ever abusing her — or that a video of such abuse existed.

“Karen and I were in a long-term relationship which ended in 2016, and I still care deeply for her well-being,” Ellison said in the statement.

Monahan also released a lengthy statement to local outlet Fox 9, painting a picture of a long-term relationship that was emotionally abusive and had taken a physical toll by the time she left Ellison in January 2017. In her statement, she said the relationship had taken a toll on her mental health and resulted in “complex PTSD.”

“Throughout the relationship he would say and do things and then gaslight me when I would ask what was going on,” Monahan said. “He would make me think I was crazy for suspecting things I had heard or had seen.”

In the post, Monahan alleged Ellison was unfaithful and characterized his behavior as “pathological lying, cheating,” and “smearing my name.” She also talks the specific incident of alleged abuse, which she said occurred in 2016:

One night I confronted him very calm about a lie he had just told me straight to my face. What happened next was a rage that I had never witnessed to that magnitude. He was becoming a person I had never seen before. The next morning, he came into the room I was sleeping in. I was laying across the bed with my headphones on, listening to podcast on my phone. He said he was about to leave town for the weekend and told me to take the trash out. Given the explosive outrage that occurred the night before, I just should shook my head yes. I didn’t look up at him or saying anything. That is when he tried to drag me off the bed by my legs and feet, screaming “bitch you answer when I am talking to you. I said take out the trash, your a bad guest (even though we were living in the same place). He kept trying to drag me off the bed, telling me to get the fuck out of his house, over and over. I froze. He had to leave and get on the plane. He knocked the shoe off my foot and told me I better be gone when he gets back (which was in two days).
A missing video file
At the center of this controversy is the alleged video that Monahan and her son both say captures domestic abuse.

The video “showed Keith Ellison dragging my mama off the bed by her feet, screaming and calling her a “f**king bitch” and telling her to get the f**k out of his house,” Austin Monahan wrote in his Facebook post. But in a later interview, he said he didn’t have the footage.

Karen Monahan says the video exists, but in an interview with the Minnesota public radio station MPR News, she said she doesn’t plan to release it.

“It’s humiliating, it’s traumatizing, for everyone’s family involved, and for me,” she told MPR on Monday. “It sets the expectation for survivors of all kinds of forms of abuse, whether it be abuse toward women, abuse from police officers, abuse from other people in power, to have to be the ones, like I’m doing right now, to show and prove their stories. It’s feeding into that.”

CNN has been trying to verify the existence of the video, but so far, Monahan has given shifting answers as to where the tape is. Here’s what we know about the video, from CNN’s Andrew Kaczynski and Nathan McDermott:

[Monahan] said that alleged physical altercation was the incident her son referred to involving Ellison allegedly pulling her off the bed and cursing at her. Monahan said she discretely recorded the video on her cell phone and then uploaded it onto her computer.

Monahan said Saturday that she did not know where the video was because she misplaced it when moving. Monahan also said she would not want the video made public in any case, calling it “embarrassing.”

Asked again on Monday about the video, Monahan said she put it on a flash drive and packed it up in her previous home and couldn’t immediately find it because it was in storage.

”It’s not on me to show embarrassing and traumatizing video that impacts both families,” Monahan told CNN on Monday.

Ellison, meanwhile, vehemently denies the footage even exists.

“This video does not exist because I never behaved in this way, and any characterization otherwise is false,” he said in a statement.

Vox contacted Karen and Austin Monahan for comment, but neither returned requests by publication time.

Cropped texts
Monahan released a batch of 100 text and Twitter messages between her and Ellison to MPR News. Many of those messages discussed the breakup; some were positive, while others were not. But, as reporter Briana Bierschbach noted, “there is no evidence in the messages reviewed by MPR News of the alleged physical abuse.”

In one exchange, Monahan told Ellison she wanted to write about their “journey” in a chapter of her book, which he called a “horrible attack on my privacy.” Public documents on the alleged incident are also scarce — there are no police reports or court documents confirming the incident, according to MPR News.

Monahan has also shared text various messages between Ellison and herself on Twitter. While one of Monahan’s texts references the alleged altercation and the video captured, Ellison did not respond to the text, according to MPR.



Other texts Monahan posted show Ellison’s contact information listed as “Dc” and are allegedly sent around April 2018. As Vox’s Emily Stewart noted, some of the text messages appear to be cut off, including ones referencing her son Austin.



This isn’t the first allegation of abuse against Ellison
After local and national outlets picked up Monahan’s allegations, some on Twitter pointed out this isn’t the first time a woman has accused Ellison of mistreatment and abuse.

In 2006, Ellison went to court with Amy Alexander, a Democratic activist, who said she first met Ellison in 1993 and started an extramarital affair with him. At the time, Ellison was married to Kim Ellison, whom he divorced in 2010.

On June 2005, Ellison took out a two-year restraining order against Alexander, and a year later, she filed a petition for her own restraining order in September 2006 (shortly before Ellison’s primary for the US House). In October 2006, Alexander wrote an article for a monthly Minnesota newsletter called the Wright County Republican, detailing what she said was a years-long relationship with Ellison.

Alexander said Ellison came to her house uninvited in June 2005, grabbed her, pushed her out of the way, and broke her screen door as he left her home. However, Alexander’s allegations also weren’t independently verified, as MPR News pointed out at the time.

Ellison denied that he was romantically involved with Alexander, and also maintained he had never been to her house or assaulted her. A 2006 court filing by Ellison’s lawyer accused Alexander of trying to blackmail his campaign.

Voters will head to the polls on Tuesday with the allegations hanging over the attorney general’s race. Before Saturday, Ellison was seen as a rising Democratic star — a progressive who understood the Democratic Party’s shifting center and had made a name for himself as vice chair of the national party.

Whether he’ll stay a rising star in the Democratic Party or burn out on Tuesday is an open question.

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I'm shocked that no one has mentioned this one yet.


And I’m just surprised Trump hasn’t automatically endorsed him yet.
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And I’m just surprised Trump hasn’t automatically endorsed him yet.
BVS, are you obsessed with Trump? Not everything is about Trump.

You're proving my point by deflecting though. I know Ellison is a big fish in your beloved DNC
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You're proving my point by deflecting though. I know Ellison is a big fish in your beloved DNC


My beloved DNC, you haven’t been paying attention.

Were you expecting a serious response? You refuse to engage, you attack, and you play “surprised no one’s talking about this” games, and NOW you expect engagement? There’s something seriously wrong with you.

I don’t know Ellison all that much, but it’s a shame if true.
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I'm shocked at a drive by "I'm shocked" posting by jesus freak.

Oh wait, no I'm not.
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I'm shocked at a drive by "I'm shocked" posting by jesus freak.

Oh wait, no I'm not.
Someone has to counteract your snarkiness and tribalism masked as moral outrage. Sorry I don't spend my entire life tied to this forum. One of my goals in life is not 50000 posts, but it would be nice to see the handful of you that keep FYM going actually be bipartisan in your "moral outrage".

It speaks volumes as well that you rarely address the issues I bring up, but just either toss a personal insult or try to get a laugh by being a smart ass.
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