Tipping Point - Sexual Harassment In America

[Irvine511]

Raise your hand if you give a shit and want to keep reading about anything that has been posted in this thread since last night.

[Nick66]

Well I’d like to know how antiram is doing.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

To address the elephant in the room...

I made a post in a conversational thread about someone who never participates in said thread. The post literally is saying that I think he likes chocolate flavored cereal, but figuratively meant to mean I think he's got a screw loose.

Purposefully in a thread he doesn't participate in rather than in here to directly engage.

Now sure, fine - maybe PMs would have been a better option.

But said poster quotes the post across two threads, and shows it as proof that he's being sexually harassed. I'll simply allow that to speak for itself.

When said poster made his original post, I actually started typing something out about my own life experience, a topic I rarely discuss, and how gender norms and roles in our fucked up Puritan nation help create an environment where women are supposedly subservient to men and people are supposed to be ashamed of their sexuality, or even the perception of their sexuality...

And then said poster started saying a woman's experiences in college we're likes, lashing out at every poster imaginable. So I tabled that shit for another time.

This poster has a history of lashing out at anyone who dares to disagree, and deflects his own criticisms on others.

He's also now on ignore, cause fuck his shit.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by Nick66

Well I’d like to know how antiram is doing.

Seconded.

[mama cass]

thirded

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

To address the elephant in the room...

I made a post in a conversational thread about someone who never participates in said thread. The post literally is saying that I think he likes chocolate flavored cereal, but figuratively meant to mean I think he's got a screw loose.

.

That was completely obvious to everyone. Nobody thinks referring to someone as coocoo (or cuckoo) is a sexual reference, everyone knows it is meant to mean you think they are acting crazy.

if you will, in fact that emoji is typed as : coocoo : without the spaces.

redhill knows this too just tried to spin it a different way to play the victim and tie it in to this thread where the whole scenario originated.

[MrsSpringsteen]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

Raise your hand if you give a shit and want to keep reading about anything that has been posted in this thread since last night.

I know, it's all kinds of crazy.

Obviously everyone wants to know how Martina is doing. Hope she's able to come back and tell us.

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen

Obviously everyone wants to know how Martina is doing. Hope she's able to come back and tell us.

Hopefully she's just catching some sleep after a long day yesterday and all is well.

[Nick66]

Originally Posted by BVS

For better or worst it’s either a gang up or a walking on eggshells around him

What about option #3...

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

He's also now on ignore

[elevated_u2_fan]

so calling someone crazy = sexual harassment?

that's neat.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by Nick66

What about option #3...

Well I was speaking historically about the forum in general, but yeah that’s always an option.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

I really prefer not to block people - but there's zero choice. And perhaps that's more for a free speech thread... so I think it's time to return the thread to it's proper subject matter.

[LuckyNumber7]

Kamala Harris Mints?

[redhill]

Is the pile on over? You guys done proving me correct (again)?

You might want to confine it to the celebration of sexual harassment thread, instead.

There's no need to double down and ruin two threads simultaneously.

[LuckyNumber7]

Did you vote for Donald Trump? You sound like you're just trying to be cute by undermining what sexual harassment is.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by redhill

Is the pile on over? You guys done proving me correct (again)?

You might want to confine it to the celebration of sexual harassment thread, instead.

There's no need to double down and ruin two threads simultaneously.

this pity party of one is boring AF.

so i'm going to move on with something to throw out to the group. take this paragraph from a larger piece (written by man) on the Aziz Ansari issue:

Even Ansari, the semi-ironic expert who authored a book on interpersonal communication, claims to have not perceived Grace’s distress. He may have perceived “mixed signals,” but also that his advances were ultimately warranted. In a sort of internal ink-blot test within the story, Ansari was seeing something totally different from his date, Grace. This sort of human mating ritual always involves complex arrays of social cues.

Part of this complexity does draw from prudishness about sex, and sex panics, that are critical to avoid. It draws from a Victorian tradition in which women (particularly women) are imbued with the idea that to have sex at another person’s first suggestion is to somehow be easy (or some such); in which culture gets mostly oriented around the male libido; in which the female libido is seen to exist only for purposes of procreation within marriage.

That framework still informs much of the rhetoric that puts the onus on women to protect themselves from sexual assault or unwelcome advances. Never mind when the woman does want sex. For many people, even consensual encounters might involve some ritualistic “I should probably get going” or “How about one more drink?” banter. If agreeing to stay a bit longer is often taken as agreement to more than that, two people can end up on very different pages. In a charitable reading, that may be what Ansari thought was happening.

The reality is that this is an audit in which most everyone is implicated—everyone has some situation in which they could have been more communicative, more respectful—and there will have to be a way to tell these stories without precipitating a sex-panic-panic. Few people want a sex panic. When I even see the term sexual misconduct on a CNN banner, it feels regressive, like a person is being ridiculed for the sexual equivalent of eating with his elbows on the table. It does seem that the shared goal is a world filled with sex that’s as minimally policed as possible—pleasurable, communicative, respectful, noncoercive, consensual sex. As much or as little of it as you want.

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertai...-panic/550547/

[MrsSpringsteen]

Originally Posted by redhill

Is the pile on over? You guys done proving me correct (again)?

You might want to confine it to the celebration of sexual harassment thread, instead.

There's no need to double down and ruin two threads simultaneously.

Frankly you're the one who started the ruin of this thread. You did it at the start of it, and I asked you nicely then to stop. It's very trying of patience.

Please don't respond to my post, I've honestly heard enough.

[redhill]

[MrsSpringsteen]

I didn't even know Aziz Ansari wrote a book about interpersonal communication. I barely know who he is.

I really don't think there's any sex panic or imagined or real policing of sex. I think people just need to work on policing themselves and aspire to know better and do better *Oprah voice*. To get real there are ways to take care of your needs without involving other people and possible bad consequences

[anitram]

Thanks for all the thoughts and prayers guys!

I will have to deliver between tonight and tomorrow AM, almost s month early because my placenta is failing and that shoots up odds of stillbirth. Hoping for smooth process and carry on in my absence!