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Old 10-22-2011, 09:55 PM   #201
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Antarctic and Arctic ice is not rapidly disappearing

Antarctic Ice Above Normal 83% Of The Time Since Mid-2007 | Real Science

Polar bears are doing okay

Polar bears not at risk: Nunavut - North - CBC News

Why is sea level slowing down and even dropping?

Hiding The Inconvenient Satellite | Real Science

Why aren't we getting more hurricanes as per Al Gore?

World Climate Report � Western Pacific Hurricanes Declining?

US Hurricane Strikes In Sharp Decline | Real Science

Why are droughts treated with alarmism when worse scenarios happened in the recent past with less CO2 in the atmosphere?

Seth Borenstein Displays His Spectacular Ignorance Once Again | Real Science

This is just a sample. So NO I'm not trying to ignore it. They haven't been able to pin-point human versus natural influence. Once the BEST studies get analyzed I'm sure that there will be weaknesses and further studies will be needed.

BEST: What I agree with and what I disagree with – plus a call for additional transparency to prevent “pal” review | Watts Up With That?

The temperature on earth has never had a stable "belle epoque" that was just recently turned into "climate disruption". This kind of Golden Age thinking is natural for humans but we have to do our due diligence before we spend trillions of dollars. The fact that you posters look at people trying to protect their lifestyle when there's a shitty economy and people out of work shows that you'll only have alarmism becuase nobody in their right mind would damage their lifestyle for a small human factor that can be lived with. It has to be end of the world scenarios or else why would anyone pay more taxes? Do you expect anyone to believe you are willing to sacrifice your lifestyle anymore than anyone else? The public is not going to stand by and watch green workers live it up while the increased energy costs reduce the size of the middle class.


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Old 10-29-2011, 07:48 PM   #202
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Time to change your catastrophic greenhouse gas rhetoric from "global warming" to "climate change" once again.
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Hey, guys, it snowed yesterday.

LOL guess the long-term trend is over!

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Time to change your catastrophic greenhouse gas rhetoric from "global warming" to "climate change" once again.
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Old 10-30-2011, 01:38 AM   #204
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Are you a happy man, Canadiens?
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Uh oh: It was the BEST of times, it was the worst of times | Watts Up With That?

Oops. Possible changes for peer review:

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[Curry] ‘I agree that the way the data is presented in the graph “hides the decline.”‘ and adds, “I thought the project was a great idea, and I still do, but it currently has a tarnish on it. Lets see what we can do about this.”


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Prof McKittrick added: ‘The fact is that many of the people who are in a position to provide informed criticism of this work are currently bound by confidentiality agreements.

‘For the Berkeley team to have chosen this particular moment to launch a major international publicity blitz is a highly unethical sabotage of the peer review process.’
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Old 11-03-2011, 07:44 PM   #207
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Fred Singer: Why I Remain a Global-Warming Skeptic - WSJ.com
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November 02, 2011|Seth Borenstein, Associated Press

For a world already weary of weather catastrophes, the latest warning from top climate scientists paints a grim future: More floods, more heat waves, more droughts and greater costs to deal with them.

A draft summary of an international scientific report says the extremes caused by global warming could eventually grow so severe that some locations become "increasingly marginal as places to live."

The report from the Nobel Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change marks a change in climate science, from focusing on subtle shifts in average temperatures to concentrating on the harder-to-analyze freak events that grab headlines, hurt economies and kill people.

"The extremes are a really noticeable aspect of climate change," said Jerry Meehl, senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research. "I think people realize that the extremes are where we are going to see a lot of the impacts of climate change."

The final version of the report from a panel of leading climate scientists will be issued in a few weeks, after a meeting in Uganda. The draft says there is at least a 2-in-3 probability that climate extremes have already worsened because of man-made greenhouse gases.

By the end of the century, the intense, single-day rainstorms that typically happen once every 20 years will probably happen about twice a decade, the report said.

The opposite type of disaster - a drought such as the stubbornly long dry spell gripping Texas and parts of the Southwest - could also happen more often as the world warms, said Meehl, who reviewed part of the climate panel report.

Researchers have also predicted more intense monsoons with climate change. Warmer air can hold more water and impart more energy to weather systems, changing the dynamics of storms and where and how they hit.

The panel was formed by the United Nations and World Meteorological Organization.
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November 02, 2011|The report from the Nobel Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change marks a change in climate science, from focusing on subtle shifts in average temperatures to concentrating on the harder-to-analyze freak events that grab headlines, hurt economies and kill people.
In other words, let's exploit modern electronic media, the hysteria machine that is 24 hour cable news and the human impulse to think history begins the day you were born.
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In other words, let's exploit modern electronic media, the hysteria machine that is 24 hour cable news and the human impulse to think history begins the day you were born.


what an apt description of the GOP.
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I can tell Durban is coming. $$$

Seth Bornstein is a hack BTW.

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And when you couple the warnings of overpopulation by the U.N. you get the gist. "Give us money!!!"

Noted Warmist: Scientists 'Endorse Al Gore Even Though They Know What He’s Saying Is Exaggerated and Misleading' | NewsBusters.org

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And they will then endorse Al Gore even though they know what he’s saying is exaggerated and misleading. You know, he’ll talk about polar bears dying even though we know they’re not dying. And, and I feel scientists unfortunately too many of them have abandoned the scientific method precisely because the problem is so important. And I feel exactly the opposite: when the problem is really important, then we have to hunker down, and really use the best methods of science.
And ironically as posted above there's issues with the BEST project that don't address the skeptic arguments.
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Old 11-11-2011, 07:39 AM   #212
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I'm going to put that picture on my fridge and lose 20 pounds.
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what an apt description of the GOP.

If that is such an accurate description of the GOP, can you post
a few sentences stating why you believe that is true?
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Old 11-11-2011, 07:52 PM   #215
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what an apt description of the GOP.
More like an apt description of what Al Gore has been doing for years.

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Widely discredited even by climate change proponents.
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If that is such an accurate description of the GOP, can you post
a few sentences stating why you believe that is true?
Do you ever feel a bit hypocritical always asking people to elaborate when you yourself NEVER do?
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Al Gore (to the right) is kind of like Glenn Beck or Ann Coulter is to the left.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:10 PM   #218
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New leak of hacked global warming scientist emails: A 'smoking gun' proving a conspiracy - or just hot air? | Mail Online
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Durban is going to be fun.

This is my favorite one so far:

http://davidappell.blogspot.com/2011...ae-emails.html

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the important thing is to make sure they’re loosing the PR battle. That’s what
the site [Real Climate] is about.


this one too:

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<2440> Jones:

I’ve been told that IPCC is above national FOI Acts. One way to cover yourself
and all those working in AR5 would be to delete all emails at the end of the
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and this too:

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I gave up on Judith Curry a while ago. I don’t know what she think’s she’s
doing, but its not helping the cause
But first we have to get verification that these are real. Mann "thinks" they're his.
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The Daily Mail is considered to be slightly less useful than toilet paper for wiping one's ass by anyone who knows a modicum about the European news media.

But why would anyone expect a respectable source from you?
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