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Rock n' Roll Doggie
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The Toll of the Anti-Vaccine Movement
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The toll of the anti-vaccination movement, in one devastating graphic - latimes.com Unbelievable the irresponsibility of the anti-vaccine movement, and society is now going backwards in defeating diseases. Sigh! |
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I have some friends a few states away who
__________________have neighbors who did not vaccinate their young son because of this "scare" that has been making the rounds. The boy is now in a hospital in critical condition. |
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Why say "scare" then?
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People don't get much stupider than anti-vacc activists.
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Is he in critical condition due to a vaccine-preventable disease? Not playing devil's advocate; generally curious.
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The anti-vaccine movement should be a punching bag that all of FYM can agree to hit.
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I'd go as far as calling not vaccinating your child child abuse. It's downright stupid and puts them at risk of preventable(heh, by vaccinating) diseases that could ruin their childhood and/or life. As a parent you have to take care of your child, so if you can prevent him from getting sick or die, why the hell would you not?
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my kids have had all their routine vaccines (MMR, tetanus, diphtheria, polio, TB, whooping cough etc.), however i have hesitated to give my teenage daughter the relatively new papilloma vaccine (which protects against only a small percent of viruses which cause cervical cancer) as i feel it hasn't been sufficiently tested and was launched onto the market very quickly, and more and more negative side effects are still coming to light - long-standing vaccines are fine but i really don't want my kids to be guinea pigs for new ones, especially for illnesses which can be prevented somewhat thru lifestyle and by taking adequate precautions...
i remember the MMR scare very well as that was very topical when my kids needed vaccinating and it did worry me immensely as a mother and i talked to my doctor at length, but in the end i felt it was the right thing to do to vaccinate my kids (that was years before it properly was debunked)... i also see a lot of anti-vaccine paranoia with animals (horses) and people refusing to vaccinate or worm because of chemicals... well, really, i would not like my horses to end up with tetanus, and also know of a horse locally who nearly died last year due to internal worm damage, then high-dose medication to eventually treat the worm burden gave her acute founder which caused her to lose a hoof - all of which could have been prevented... |
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what do the colours on the diagram specifically stand for? that would be interesting to know!
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The flu shot is a bit different because its efficacy is very arguable as opposed to childhood vaccines.
mama cass, are you talking about Gardasil? Yes, it prevents only a few HPV strains, but those few account for nearly all instances of cervical cancer. I was basically a guinea pig for this vaccine very, VERY early. I actually feel a great sense of relief at having been administered it. Two years ago, a co-worker of mine was diagnosed with cervical cancer 7 months after she had her second baby. Her life has been very difficult since and she said the moment her daughter is old enough, she's getting vaccinated. |
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I really would like to know why these parents chose putting their child at risk for serious diseases rather than become autistic. I know vaccines do not cause autism, but I'm baffled those parents chose diseases over autism. Yeah, autism is devastating but at least the kid won't get measles or anything. My guess is that they didn't think those diseases weren't around anymore, but little did they know... I'm going to look around to see if there are any articles about anti-vaccine parents who now regret their decision. |
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at the time, i discussed it with my daughter and she wasn't happy about it, plus there had been an incident reported in the news of a young girl dying after the vaccine, and i felt i didn't know enough about the vaccine itself to make the decision back then... our GP at the time clearly explained that it didn't offer wide protection though - we have recently got a new doctor though who seems very up to date with things, so will have a chat to her about it... |
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I have also read a lot of things about Gardasil and the deaths/adverse reactions. I still strongly feel that you are way better getting it than not. |
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i think some people are distrustful of the pharmaceutical industry, and there have been some pretty major pharma fuck-ups - diethylstilbestrol, thalidomide to name a couple... |
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Well, here's a terrible story from Australia last year. Shows just how fanatical anti-vaccine supporters can be:
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Wow, these people are really screwed up. It's not easy to have your beliefs and convictions shaken, but that is insanity. |
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the vaccine uptake rate seems to be pretty low here too among my daughters' peers (none of her close friends have had it)... i will talk to her about it again though... |
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True, not everything can be trusted. But vaccinations have been around for decades, and there haven't been any epidemics of anything. Now the rise of autism may be an epidemic, but I don't see how vaccinations are the cause. I think distrusting the pharma industry is a little out of hand for some.
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TB is a major worry these days, and is on the increase - i read recently that there have been some worrying outbreaks in London... |
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