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the religious freedom of corporations
it's going to be argued in front of SCOTUS:
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corporations have been given the right to free speech, it may make logical sense that the next right to be recognized is their right to religious expression. the government may be overstepping it's bounds by forcing a corporation to violate it's deeply held religious convictions not just about birth control (as is the case with the ACA), but about family planning, single mothers, gay couples, medical leave, gay partners and sick leave, stem cells, or any medical procedure that they feel violates said convictions. |
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However, I am against discrimination like this. As a woman, I wouldn't want my boss to decide what I do with my body. Whether or not I use contraceptives is not his business, and he should only be concerned with my performance at work. Some may say I should simply not work for a corporation or any business that may lead to this type of problem, but that's easier said than done. |
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I think Irvine was being facetious at the end
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He probably was, but those are my true thoughts on this issue.
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I find the belief to be so entirely unreasonable that I don't think religious freedom applies.
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no, actually i wasn't. corporations do have the right of free speech -- that's what Citizens United was all about. at issue in the ACA is it's mandatory coverage of contraception, and much like, say, Catholic adoption charities who chose to shut their doors rather than have the government force them to consider gay couples when placing children with potential adoptive families, many are concerned that the ACA will force some employers to violate their deeply held convictions in regards to contraception. let's say i get HIV, and my employer (since i know have employer sponsored health care) says to me, "i'm sorry, but i believe HIV/AIDS is sent by god to punish those who live immoral lives, it would be against my deeply held religious convictions to pay, in part, for your treatment. the government cannot force me to intercede in what is god's divine retribution for your violation of the laws of nature and nature's God." if birth control can be denied, why can't any other medication also be denied for whatever deeply held religious conviction of the employer? i'm sure i can take my AIDS and go find work somewhere else where they'll cover me. |
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" the government may be overstepping it's bounds by forcing a corporation to violate it's deeply held religious convictions not just about birth control (as is the case with the ACA), but about family planning, single mothers, gay couples, medical leave, gay partners and sick leave, stem cells, or any medical procedure that they feel violates said convictions." |
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I don't understand your question.
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I think I'm just reading in an tone you didn't intend. Maybe I'm just surprised by your stance on it
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If I had to take a guess, I'd say that Hobby Lobby will lose by a rather large margin at the SCOTUS.
One of the big problems with this case is that what is actually being argued legally is much more subtle and complex than what is being reported in the media. There has also been a lot written on what isn't being argued by either side (primarily the Establishment Clause) - some very, very interesting stuff out there for legal geeks. |
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