The real enemy of art right here, folks! - Page 2

indra · 09-29-2009, 04:06 PM

My first thought was "at least it's not a pickled shark."

Sadly, that one wasn't a hoax ... or perhaps it's the even bigger hoax because he not only actually got someone to buy it, but the buyer paid a shitload for it too.

Zoots · 09-29-2009, 04:47 PM

Even if it's a hoax, how did the author think this was funny?

Jive Turkey · 09-29-2009, 05:03 PM

I dont think it was necessarily meant to be a funny hoax, but rather a provocative one (if you're down with talking about art)

Knuckle · 09-29-2009, 07:07 PM

I think his real message is found in this line...

"Secondly, rape is not always a black and white issue. The definition is argued almost everyday in courtrooms around the country. The woman who gets too drunk one night and regrets having sex the next morning, was she raped or not? There is no easy answer. I hope some of that ambiguity will manifest itself in this project."

Rape (or sexual assault), by definition, must be a sexual act with no consent given. He is saying that he is making it crystal clear that he intends to rape anyone or anything that comes into his tunnel. The tunnel leads to only one place and has no other exit. So, knowing what is at the end of his tunnel, if the spectator still chooses to enter, then they have arguably manifested only one intention...to voluntarily engage in a (probably rough) sexual act. Thus, they have consented. And if they have consented, then no crime. (Except that he shouldn't call it a "rape tunnel" because it is evidence of "mens rea" --knowledge of what he is doing is wrong.)

It's an interesting argument, but I'm glad I don't live in Ohio right now.

Jive Turkey · 09-29-2009, 09:17 PM

YouTube - RAPE TUNNEL: A Love Story - Moon County

this isnt necessarily funny.....just relevant. Its mildly amusing

kingofsorrow · 09-30-2009, 01:45 AM

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http://www.artlurker.com/2009/09/the...sheila-zareno/

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indra · 09-30-2009, 02:09 AM

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I imagine it got too much traffic.

Check Gawker. Here are a couple of links:

First blog on Gawker

Second blog on Gawker

09-29-2009, 04:06 PM	#21
indra ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,689 Local Time: 04:34 PM	My first thought was "at least it's not a pickled shark." Sadly, that one wasn't a hoax ... or perhaps it's the even bigger hoax because he not only actually got someone to buy it, but the buyer paid a shitload for it too. __________________

09-29-2009, 04:47 PM	#22
Zoots Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: the great beyond Posts: 36,802 Local Time: 10:34 PM	Even if it's a hoax, how did the author think this was funny? __________________

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09-29-2009, 05:03 PM	#23
Jive Turkey ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,646 Local Time: 04:34 PM	I dont think it was necessarily meant to be a funny hoax, but rather a provocative one (if you're down with talking about art)

09-29-2009, 07:07 PM	#24
Knuckle Acrobat Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 476 Local Time: 04:34 PM	I think his real message is found in this line... "Secondly, rape is not always a black and white issue. The definition is argued almost everyday in courtrooms around the country. The woman who gets too drunk one night and regrets having sex the next morning, was she raped or not? There is no easy answer. I hope some of that ambiguity will manifest itself in this project." Rape (or sexual assault), by definition, must be a sexual act with no consent given. He is saying that he is making it crystal clear that he intends to rape anyone or anything that comes into his tunnel. The tunnel leads to only one place and has no other exit. So, knowing what is at the end of his tunnel, if the spectator still chooses to enter, then they have arguably manifested only one intention...to voluntarily engage in a (probably rough) sexual act. Thus, they have consented. And if they have consented, then no crime. (Except that he shouldn't call it a "rape tunnel" because it is evidence of "mens rea" --knowledge of what he is doing is wrong.) It's an interesting argument, but I'm glad I don't live in Ohio right now.