The Pope resigns / New Pope discussion - Page 13

AEON · 07-10-2013, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Diemen

Speaking of miracles... apparently Pope Francis has eschewed the custom beemers, benzes and fanciness for a Ford Focus... a used Ford Focus. Nice quote from Francis:

Might not agree with a lot of his stances, but I like what I've seen so far. The Catholic Church could use a healthy dose of humility.

Agreed

Pearl · 07-10-2013, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Diemen

Might not agree with a lot of his stances, but I like what I've seen so far. The Catholic Church could use a healthy dose of humility.

You know, things are becoming too good to be true for this Pope. He's so humble and believes so firmly in social justice, I can't help but wonder if it's only a matter of time before shit hits the fan and we see a corrupt and even ugly side to him. It's a like a miracle (

)that there's actually a Pope who gives a damn about what Jesus taught.

nathan1977 · 07-11-2013, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pearl

You know, things are becoming too good to be true for this Pope. He's so humble and believes so firmly in social justice, I can't help but wonder if it's only a matter of time before shit hits the fan and we see a corrupt and even ugly side to him. It's a like a miracle (

)that there's actually a Pope who gives a damn about what Jesus taught.

Badyouken · 07-11-2013, 11:11 AM

Pope boosts Vatican laws against child abuse

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Pope Francis has bolstered criminal legislation against child abuse in the Vatican in an overhaul of laws that apply to the clergy and lay people who work in the city state.

The Vatican said on Thursday in a statement that the pope's decree included "a broader definition of the category of crimes against minors" including child prostitution, sexual acts with children and child pornography.

He also increased cooperation with other states against money laundering and terrorism in a continuation of reforms started by his predecessor, Benedict XVI, to get the Vatican in line with international legislation.

The new norms also increase criminal liability for people working in Vatican departments - a potentially radical change that would complement his plans to root out corruption from the scandal-ridden Vatican bureaucracy.

The laws will come into force on September 1.

Pearl · 07-11-2013, 11:26 AM

So...

The cardinals were fully aware the Church is corrupt and abusive when they elected Pope Francis? You mean, they had a conscience?

Um, wow.

nbcrusader · 07-11-2013, 12:05 PM

The Aljazeera headline was a bit misleading. Here is AP's article. As an independent City-State, Vatican City has its own set of criminal laws (different from Church law). Until this recent change, the laws in place were taken from the 1889 Italian Code. Pope Francis updated these laws and covers in greater detail crimes against children. It also, for example, criminalizes leaks of Vatican information.

Jive Turkey · 07-11-2013, 12:44 PM

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It also, for example, criminalizes leaks of Vatican information.

whon whon whonnnnnnnnn

BoMac · 07-29-2013, 06:56 AM

This latest Pope Francis quote just blew me away.

According to NBC News, he is quoted as saying: "If someone is gay who searches for the Lord and has goodwill, who am I to judge?"

Of course, he preceded that by saying "They say they exist."

So yeah.

cobl04 · 07-29-2013, 08:23 AM

^Still, some progression.

BBC News - Archbishop Tutu 'would not worship a homophobic God'

Jive Turkey · 07-29-2013, 10:06 AM

But only if they search for the lord

AEON · 07-29-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BoMac

This latest Pope Francis quote just blew me away.

"If someone is [Fill in blank] who searches for the Lord and has goodwill, who am I to judge?"

That's not exactly a new sentiment - yet glad to see it get more emphasis.

Pearl · 07-29-2013, 10:55 AM

But he's still against women being priests.

Maybe the next guy will.

BonosSaint · 07-29-2013, 11:30 AM

It will be interesting to see how few enthusiastic discussions women priests are likely to be generated even among progressives. That authority thing, I guess.

Irvine511 · 07-29-2013, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AEON

That's not exactly a new sentiment - yet glad to see it get more emphasis.

Still, progress from Ratzinger. Who's as glass closeted as they come.

Jive Turkey · 07-29-2013, 09:21 PM

It's kinda fucked up that "Being gay is sinful.... but hey, who am I to judge?...Women priests? pffff" is getting a pat on the back

Irvine511 · 07-29-2013, 09:41 PM

Baby steps.

Jive Turkey · 07-29-2013, 09:51 PM

I suppose

digitize · 07-29-2013, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

It's kinda fucked up that "Being gay is sinful.... but hey, who am I to judge?...Women priests? pffff" is getting a pat on the back

Yeah, I have a hard time considering this progress. My first thought was that it sounds like the same rationalization of anti-gay feelings that we've heard before.

Irvine511 · 07-29-2013, 11:03 PM

It's still sooooooo much better than Benedict.

Also still, I spend about a half second each day caring about what the Pope thinks about anything.

AEON · 07-30-2013, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Irvine511

It's still sooooooo much better than Benedict.

07-11-2013, 11:26 AM	#245
Pearl Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 5,741 Local Time: 04:04 PM	So... The cardinals were fully aware the Church is corrupt and abusive when they elected Pope Francis? You mean, they had a conscience? Um, wow. Looks like God does work in mysterious ways

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BoMac Self-righteous bullshitter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Soviet Canuckistan — Socialist paradise Posts: 16,900 Local Time: 05:04 PM	This latest Pope Francis quote just blew me away. According to NBC News, he is quoted as saying: "If someone is gay who searches for the Lord and has goodwill, who am I to judge?" Of course, he preceded that by saying "They say they exist." So yeah. __________________

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07-11-2013, 12:05 PM	#246
nbcrusader Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,071 Local Time: 01:04 PM	The Aljazeera headline was a bit misleading. Here is AP's article. As an independent City-State, Vatican City has its own set of criminal laws (different from Church law). Until this recent change, the laws in place were taken from the 1889 Italian Code. Pope Francis updated these laws and covers in greater detail crimes against children. It also, for example, criminalizes leaks of Vatican information.

07-29-2013, 08:23 AM	#249
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 59,148 Local Time: 06:04 AM	^Still, some progression. BBC News - Archbishop Tutu 'would not worship a homophobic God'

07-29-2013, 10:06 AM	#250
Jive Turkey ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,646 Local Time: 04:04 PM	But only if they search for the lord

07-29-2013, 10:55 AM	#252
Pearl Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 5,741 Local Time: 04:04 PM	But he's still against women being priests. Maybe the next guy will.

07-29-2013, 11:30 AM	#253
BonosSaint Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,566 Local Time: 04:04 PM	It will be interesting to see how few enthusiastic discussions women priests are likely to be generated even among progressives. That authority thing, I guess.

07-29-2013, 09:21 PM	#255
Jive Turkey ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,646 Local Time: 04:04 PM	It's kinda fucked up that "Being gay is sinful.... but hey, who am I to judge?...Women priests? pffff" is getting a pat on the back

07-29-2013, 09:41 PM	#256
Irvine511 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the West Coast Posts: 34,378 Local Time: 04:04 PM	Baby steps.

07-29-2013, 09:51 PM	#257
Jive Turkey ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,646 Local Time: 04:04 PM	I suppose

07-29-2013, 11:03 PM	#259
Irvine511 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the West Coast Posts: 34,378 Local Time: 04:04 PM	It's still sooooooo much better than Benedict. Also still, I spend about a half second each day caring about what the Pope thinks about anything.