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Old 02-11-2010, 03:27 PM   #441
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All I know is that if Obama and Reid and Pelosi had had their way in Iraq, Saddam and his sons would still be raping women, gassing the Kurds, and proliferating weapons to our enemies.
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Old 02-11-2010, 04:29 PM   #442
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All I know is that if Obama and Reid and Pelosi had had their way in Iraq, Saddam and his sons would still be raping women, gassing the Kurds, and proliferating weapons to our enemies.
Wow, you're 2 for 2 on really informed well thought out posts in FYM...
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All I know is that if Obama and Reid and Pelosi had had their way in Iraq, Saddam and his sons would still be raping women, gassing the Kurds, and proliferating weapons to our enemies.
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Old 02-11-2010, 06:58 PM   #444
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Jesus, Sting. Drop it already. It's ok to relent and let an issue drop without having said your piece. Irvine has asked you to leave him alone.
I haven't done anything wrong. I simply responded to a post like everyone in here does and got attacked for it. There is nothing wrong with responding to a post on an issue that I either agree or disagree with.

There is something wrong with making false personal comments about other members of the forum.

If I'm indeed on anyone's ignore list, I don't see how any of this would be an issue.


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It most certainly can be, depending of course on how you're discussing the issues.
Maybe, but there are far more things, that get posted, that don't involve issues, are comments about forum members, are clearly antagonistic, and are often ignored.
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Old 02-11-2010, 07:14 PM   #445
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Strongbow rarely, if ever, posts smears or personal attacks. It's not Strongbow's fault that his (unpopular and lengthy) opinions are not well received here.

I hope he sticks around
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Old 02-12-2010, 06:00 PM   #446
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Strongbow rarely, if ever, posts smears or personal attacks.
neither do I, but I can still be an annoying twerp too busy to repeat myself ad nauseum to even care what the rest of the world is on about

the bush legacy
sounds like a euphemism for an std
one leaves a burning sting that lasts longer though
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Old 02-13-2010, 02:47 PM   #447
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I'd like to say I want to stay on the topic of the Bush legacy.

But I will add that any of us can choose to ignore or respond to any particular post at anytime.

This place works best when people feel free to express their opinions and they are able to do it in a way that others can at least understand why they have that point of view. The need to score points or approach every topic as if it is a debate contest, where one must prevail and vanquish the other, is just driving down the participation in these forums.

If someone will take the time to throw up a 5000 word thesis, setting up a number premises, to arrive at a conclusion that suits them.
Why is it a surprise that a 5000 word rebuttal will get a 15000 word counter argument, with rebuttals and additional premises to achieve the desired conclusion.
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I'm going to start saving up for the signed clothbound copy. I hope there are more poisoning stories in that one too

AP updated 9:45 a.m. ET, Tues., April 27, 2010

The publisher of former President George W. Bush's book "Decision Points" on Sunday set a Nov. 9 release date, unveiled its cover design and announced new details about it.

Bush has said he is not writing a traditional memoir but an account of key decisions in his life.

The cover features a photo of then-President Bush alone with his thoughts, standing in the Rose Garden Colonnade, wearing a dark suit and holding a briefing book, his head turned slightly from the camera.


A candid account?
According to Crown Publishers, "Decision Points" will offer "gripping, never-before-heard detail" on such historic events as the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and the 2000 presidential election along with Bush's decision to quit drinking, his relationship with his family and other personal details.

"Since leaving the Oval Office, President Bush has given virtually no interviews or public speeches about his presidency," Crown said in a statement. "Instead, he has spent almost every day writing 'Decision Points,' a strikingly personal and candid account revealing how and why he made the defining decisions in his consequential presidency and personal life."

A publishing industry source familiar with the book said that Bush had completed a first draft and was editing the manuscript on a computer at his office in Dallas. A former White House speech writer, Chris Michel, is helping with research. The source was unsure whether Bush had compared notes with his wife, Laura Bush, whose memoir comes out May 4.

The source asked not to be identified because the book had not been released.

'Writes honestly and directly'
As president, Bush was known for not acknowledging errors, but Crown said that he "writes honestly and directly about his flaws and mistakes, as well as his historic achievements in reforming education, providing life-saving treatments for HIV/AIDS and malaria for millions of people in Africa, safeguarding the country from another terrorist attack, and other areas."

The book will have a list price of $35. One thousand signed, clothbound copies will be available, priced at $350 each.

The former president will promote "Decision Points" through a national tour, although Crown, a division of Random House Inc., said no details were available.
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The cover features a photo of then-President Bush alone with his thoughts, standing in the Rose Garden Colonnade, wearing a dark suit and holding a briefing book, his head turned slightly from the camera, listening for the voice of God.


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Maybe the title should have been:

Are You There, God? It's Me, Dubya
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Laura Bush Supports Gay Marriage, Abortion - ABC News

"It's disappointing to hear Laura Bush, who is a well respected and admired former first lady, espouse positions on marriage and the value of human life that are contrary not only to her husband's but arguably, according to polls, in conflict with the majority of Americans," said Carrie Gordon Earll, spokeswoman for the conservative group Focus on the Family.

I am so disappointed..
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Carrie Gordon Earll, from now on, if you're anti-gay, you're a self-loathing homosexual until proven otherwise.
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Carrie Gordon Earll, from now on, if you're anti-gay, you're a self-loathing homosexual until proven otherwise.


indeed, the burden of proof is on her.
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GRAND RAPIDS -- Former President George W. Bush was by turns affable, relaxed -- and deadly serious in his local appearance Wednesday.

"Yeah, we water-boarded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed," Bush said of the terrorist who master-minded the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on New York and Washington. He said that event shaped his presidency and convinced him the nation was in a war against terror.

"I'd do it again to save lives."
Good for you W. The majority of Americans support your actions. You acted appropriately and don't let the cheesewienies or Bushhaters convince you otherwise.
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The majority is always right

Your party has a POW that knows better.
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"I'd do it again to save lives."

what lives were saved? and can you show me how all these truths that saved lives were unattainable via any other method than torture?

glad to see that INDY, like many conservatives, enjoys war crimes when Americans do it.
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That makes me happy to hear that regarding Laura Bush's views . I too wish she could've passed that on to the Bush administration. But hopefully she'll inspire other people now.

(Not to mention, if it upsets Focus on the Family, I know it's got to be good)

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Good for you W. The majority of Americans support your actions. You acted appropriately and don't let the cheesewienies or Bushhaters convince you otherwise.
And of course it worked so well, 'cause we haven't had any terror attacks since then, right?

Do the majority really still support that?

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Good for you W. The majority of Americans support your actions. You acted appropriately and don't let the cheesewienies or Bushhaters convince you otherwise.
I assume you are happy that the perpatrator of the worst attacks on the US is still alive and hasn't been brought to justice? Your good with that right?

We did attack Iraq though and proved:

1>. Saddam had WMD's
2>. Saddam was in cahoots with bin LAden
3>. We were going to reap the benifits of all that Iraqi Oil.
4>. The American army was going to be cheered for as Liberator's.
5>. The Iraqi war was going to be a "one and done" we would be out of there with little casualties.
6>. Halliburton could make a boatload of money if we attacked Iraq.

Yup your right great job W. and a little insight, I'm not a cheesewienie, I was a "well informed Conservative" as you seem to be. Let me guess, you are a Dittohead, a Sarah Palin fan and a Teabagger?
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I assume you are happy that the perpatrator of the worst attacks on the US is still alive and hasn't been brought to justice? Your good with that right?
For your information, Al Quada is not a ONE man organization. More Terrorist were caught or killed while Bush was in office than under any other US Presidential administration in US history. When it comes to killing and Capturing Terrorist, Bush is at the top of the list compared to other Presidents.

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We did attack Iraq though and proved:

1>. Saddam had WMD's
2>. Saddam was in cahoots with bin LAden
3>. We were going to reap the benifits of all that Iraqi Oil.
4>. The American army was going to be cheered for as Liberator's.
5>. The Iraqi war was going to be a "one and done" we would be out of there with little casualties.
6>. Halliburton could make a boatload of money if we attacked Iraq.

Yup your right great job W. and a little insight, I'm not a cheesewienie, I was a "well informed Conservative" as you seem to be. Let me guess, you are a Dittohead, a Sarah Palin fan and a Teabagger
Yes, the United States did invade Iraq and remove one of worst dictators in history from power who had successfully got out from under the stiff sanctions and weapons embargo regime he had been put in at the end of the 1991 Gulf War. The removal of Saddam secured one of the worlds most vital sources of energy and prevented more of the destruction and chaos that had been caused by Saddam in his 24 years as leader of Iraq. Saddam used WMD more times than any other leader in history, on both his own people and foreign soldiers. The world no longer faces the serious threat that Saddam posed to the persian gulf.

Iraqi oil industry is still being developed and in the coming years will have a major impact on global energy prices helping to keep them lower than they would normally be do to rapidly increasing demand.

The American Army were often cheered as liberators and even the Sunni's who initially did not feel that way back then, have today formed deep partnerships ties with the US military and many would be happy for a US military presence in Iraq beyond 2011.

The actual removal of Saddam from power was low in terms of casualties. The nation building phase of the operation after the removal of Saddam was always going to prove more costly. Still, in terms of past US wars in history, especially long term nation building/counter insurgency operations, the building of Iraq has proven to be relatively low in casualties and cost compared with similar previous conflicts that the USA has been in.

Business's from around the world are now going into Iraq as the security situation continues to improve and the economy continues to rapidly grow. Iraq currently has one of the fastest growing economies on the planet.

All in all, Colin Powell, former Secretary of State James Baker, Kenneth Pollack, Michael O'Halon all agree that the removal of Saddam was a necessity and the region and world will be more secure in the future with Saddam gone.

The number of people who continue to defend the idea that the region and world would be more secure and better off with Saddam in power gets smaller every day!

The removal of Saddam is without a doubt that best thing that Bush did while President.
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