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Old 08-15-2009, 03:25 PM   #381
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Old 08-15-2009, 08:58 PM   #382
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Event on Abu Ghraib soldier canceled over threats - Yahoo! News

It's nice to see those that abhor torture embrace violence to get their way.
There's nutcakes threatening the life of our president too. You don't hear me eqauting everyone who disagrees with his policies with them, do you?
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Old 08-17-2009, 02:32 PM   #383
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Speaking of Lynndie England, Obama still refuses to review the "American Service-Members' Protection Act (ASPA)", better known as the "The Hague Invasion act", despite of the fact that there's a 400 year of friendship between Holland and the US. (The US want to celebrate it, but Holland's not in the mood)

The act is there "to protect United States military personnel and other elected and appointed officials of the United States government against criminal prosecution by an international criminal court to which the United States is not party". It is designed by no one other than (very) conservative Senator Jesse Helms.

So, when a US military official is held there because of war crimes, the US are going to attack the Netherlands in order to free him/ her.
The International Court of Justice may be in The Hague, but it is an independent court, not a Dutch court. Still the post-Bush government is holding the Dutch hostage, just in case. I'm very curious why that is and why doesn't the US accept an independent international court? And what more do the Pentagon big shots have to hide?



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Old 08-20-2009, 01:21 PM   #384
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In a new book, former Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge reveals new details on politicization under President Bush, reports US News & World Report's Paul Bedard. Among other things, Ridge admits that he was pressured to raise the terror alert to help Bush win re-election in 2004.

Ridge was never invited to sit in on National Security Council meetings; was "blindsided" by the FBI in morning Oval Office meetings because the agency withheld critical information from him; found his urgings to block Michael Brown from being named head of the emergency agency blamed for the Hurricane Katrina disaster ignored; and was pushed to raise the security alert on the eve of President Bush's re-election, something he saw as politically motivated and worth resigning over.

Dave Weigel, writing for the Washington Independent, notes that in the past, Ridge has denied manipulating security information for political reasons. In 2004, for example, he said, "We don't do politics in the Department of Homeland Security."

The Bush administration was forced to admit in the days after the 2004 alert that it was based on intelligence three or four years old. Officials then claimed there was a previously unmentioned "separate stream of intelligence" that justified the warning -- but offered little tangible information to support their new story..

ThinkProgress recalls, the AP reported that "even 'some senior Republicans' privately questioned Ridge's timing of a terror alert that came just three days after the Democratic National Convention."

Ridge's book, "The Test of Our Times: America Under Siege...and How We Can Be Safe Again," comes out September 1.
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:50 PM   #385
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Who didn't suspect this?

Diamond, put your hand down.
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Old 08-20-2009, 06:19 PM   #386
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and was pushed to raise the security alert on the eve of President Bush's re-election, something he saw as politically motivated and worth resigning over.

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And yet he didn't...another 'whistleblowing' coward like Scott McClellan.

Now he's got a book to make money off of...he's all about his principles.

Sheesh...
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Old 08-20-2009, 07:25 PM   #387
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I want to be a politician in the next life.

They really got it goin on!
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Old 08-20-2009, 08:08 PM   #388
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Who didn't suspect this?

Diamond, put your hand down.
Well, it wasn't just Diamond, was it. Actually, at the time false flag terror alerts were been raised on a regular basis in the 2003-2005 period, those who raised concerns or questions were pretty much told they were traitors, in league with terrorists, etc - and I'd wager this probably even happened on this very forum (and I certainly don't mean you, or, to be fair, any of the left wing people on here, but people even in the political centre and in the Democrats party seemed quite happy to go along with this 'questioning the President's motives is tantamount to sympathising with terrorists' bullshit that was very popular at that time).

So, now I will turn the tables.

Neocons should be treated as suspicious individuals potentially involved in terroristic conspiracies until proven otherwise.
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Old 08-21-2009, 03:37 PM   #389
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Certainly a lot of people felt this way but nobody else who felt that way bothered to start a thread with "terror alerts" in the title.

So, everybody give it up to deep. October 2004.

http://www.u2interference.com/forums...on-100393.html
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deep's like Nostradamus, only better

http://mediamatters.org/research/200908210056
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If anyone has read or heard about what the CIA was allegedly doing in some of these "enhanced interrogation techniques"-threatening to kill children, watch your mothers are sexually assaulted, use of power drills, mock execution of fellow prisoners, and probably much more.


(CNN) — Former Vice President Dick Cheney is again taking aim at President Obama, issuing a statement Monday suggesting the administration's decision to name a prosecutor to investigate CIA interrogations under President Bush fuels "doubts about this administration's ability to be responsible for our nation's security."

"The people involved deserve our gratitude," Cheney said in the statement. "They do not deserve to be the targets of political investigations or prosecutions."

The former vice president also said documents released Monday prove enhanced interrogation techniques yieled valuable information that "provided the bulk of intelligence we gained about al Qaeda"

"This intelligence saved lives and prevented terrorist attacks," Cheney said. "These detainees also, according to the documents, played a role in nearly every capture of al Qaeda members and associates since 2002."

"The activities of the CIA in carrying out the policies of the Bush Administration were directly responsible for defeating all efforts by al Qaeda to launch further mass casualty attacks against the United States," he added.

Late Monday, the government released declassified CIA documents originally requested last May by Cheney. The former vice president had argued they would show enhanced interrogation techniques saved lives.

While analysis in the documents says information from detainee interrogations "helped thwart a number of al-Qaida plots" and "arrests…disrupted attack plans in progress," it remains unclear from the heavily redacted documents whether that information was obtained through the enhanced interrogation techniques Cheney defends.

The documents' release came the same day Attorney General Eric Holder asked federal prosecutor John Durham to examine whether CIA interrogations of suspected terrorists were illegal after the release of a 2004 CIA inspector general's report into further questionable interrogation techniques.
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we do not torture.

repeat.
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Old 08-25-2009, 12:40 PM   #393
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No-it's only enhanced. Like HD, only even bigger and better.
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:07 AM   #394
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Some interesting stuff..

Bush In 2008: "I'm Not Going To Tell Some Gay Kid In The Audience That He Can't Get Married"

Speechwriter Matt Latimer's new book trains its gaze on the lunacy of the late-era Bush White House. And there was plenty of material.
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Some interesting stuff..

Bush In 2008: "I'm Not Going To Tell Some Gay Kid In The Audience That He Can't Get Married"

Speechwriter Matt Latimer's new book trains its gaze on the lunacy of the late-era Bush White House. And there was plenty of material.
Sounds like it might be a good read!

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Bush, when told that Idaho Sen. Larry Craig had been the latest GOPer to be caught in a sex scandal involving boys or men: "What is up with all these Republicans?"

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Laura Bush, says Latimer, "was secretly a Democrat for all intents and purposes, though it really wasn't much of a secret."

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Popularity fleeting, former president tells seminar crowd | Local News | Star-Telegram.com

Former President George W. Bush told more than 11,000 people at the Fort Worth Convention Center that he was confident he made the right decisions as president, even if it hurt his popularity.

“Every single day I was honored to be your president by bringing honor and dignity to the office,” Bush said Monday afternoon, during his first foray into motivational speaking, at the day-long "Get Motivated" seminar.

Bush, who now lives in Dallas, spoke in a relaxed tone about a few lessons he'd learned in life, including sticking to your principles and living each day to its fullest.

“It’s so simple in life to chase popularity, but popularity is fleeting," Bush said. "It’s not real."

When the president left office in January 2009, his approval ratings hovered in the low 20s and 30s, depending upon the polling agency.

Bush assured the families of war veterans that he wouldn't sell out "their loved ones for the sake of pure politics."

"And let me tell you," he continued. "I never did.”

The former president also emphasized the importance of generosity, noting how many people were surprised when he promised billions in aid to Africa to fight the AIDS epidemic.

“Apparently Republicans aren’t supposed to be compassionate, so it was a shock," Bush said.

Bush also spoke about his faith, promising everyone in the audience that those people who prayed for him and his wife while they lived in the Oval Office made the first couple's lives better.

“From a personal perspective, I don’t see how you can be president without relying upon an almighty," Bush said.

When he spoke about his economic outlook, Bush’s remarks sounded like a Republican Party stump speech.

“Another principle I believe in is that you can spend your money better than the government can,” Bush said to huge applause.

He added later: “The marketplace works. It is fair. It is equitable. It is a fair form of democracy.”

At the end of his speech, Bush received a standing ovation.
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Ah George. . .

You know, I never felt he was evil. Just not very competent. . .with disastorous results. I actually agree with his principles of not chasing popularity.

It's just, if you're wrong, you're wrong whether that's the popular conception or not.
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:18 PM   #398
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“Another principle I believe in is that you can spend your money better than the government can,” Bush said to huge applause.


no question.

people need flat-screen TVs, not roads and schools and a fire department.
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I have to laugh...

I never heard one Republican moan about his spending while in office, yet now they all say that they didn't agree with Bush on his spending and TARP, but yet they applaud him when he says something like this...

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I have to laugh...

I never heard one Republican moan about his spending while in office, yet now they all say that they didn't agree with Bush on his spending and TARP, but yet they applaud him when he says something like this...

Um... works both ways, you know.

Democrats didn't stop complaining about the deficit spending the last 8 years, but now they seem pretty silent, yourself included, despite the debt and the deficit skyrocketing.
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