The GOP News Thread - Page 3

Pearl · 05-26-2013, 11:46 AM

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Still, he acknowledged it's not easy to work with the Senate, where he said "no doubt about it," cloture is being abused. He didn't spare the Republican Party his criticism, saying they need to "close for repairs" and come up with more plans and a vision for the future before the end of the year. Wallace asked him whether he'd even fit in with the Republican Party today.

"I doubt it," Dole replied. "Reagan wouldn't have made it, certainly Nixon wouldn't have made it, because he had ideas. We might have made it, but I doubt it.

Bob Dole On Congress: Gridlock 'Almost Unreal'

If Bob Dole is saying even Reagan wouldn't be accepted into the GOP if he were alive today, that speaks volumes of what has become of the party. I wonder what neo-conservatives who have those WWRD? bumper stickers would say to that comment.

Kieran McConville · 05-26-2013, 07:16 PM

As hard right as Reagan was, and became under the sway of his ideological mentors, he started out as an FDR Democrat. It was the 'Red Menace' that gradually turned him. So no, he definitely wouldn't fit in today's GOP. Nixon is practically a hippie communist compared to these guys.

digitize · 05-26-2013, 08:17 PM

Nixon would probably fit fairly comfortably into today's Democratic Party.

BVS · 06-05-2013, 09:14 PM

Caught On Audio: Texas Tea Party Leader, “The Republican Party doesn’t want black people to vote” | FreakOutNation

Pearl · 07-10-2013, 06:42 PM

Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists To Graduate High School

The GOP is fighting so hard to maintain political power and influence in this country, they are hurting democracy.

nbcrusader · 07-10-2013, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pearl

Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists To Graduate High School

The GOP is fighting so hard to maintain political power and influence in this country, they are hurting democracy.

*Media Hyperbole Alert - Misleading headline*

Still, a fairly worthless bill.

maycocksean · 07-10-2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nbcrusader

*Media Hyperbole Alert - Misleading headline*

Still, a fairly worthless bill.

BVS · 07-10-2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nbcrusader

*Media Hyperbole Alert - Misleading headline*

Still, a fairly worthless bill.

True, but it still begs the question: what the hell is wrong with Arizona? It's almost becoming a monthly ritual to see some absolutely absurd backwards law being proposed by their Republicans.

Irvine511 · 07-10-2013, 10:58 PM

Some people have issues with modernity.

The GOP speaks for them.

PhilsFan · 01-08-2014, 11:11 AM

A bit of controversy for Governor Christie:

Top Christie aide to Port Authority: 'Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee' - NorthJersey.com

U2DMfan · 01-08-2014, 12:48 PM

I don't think stuff like that is going to matter too much. Sort of like Robert Gates new book that said both HRC and Biden admitted to opposing the Iraq surge in 2007 for political reasons. Whatever the case, there's dirt on everyone.

I believe 2016 will be just like 2012 - a referendum on the big picture. The GOP, barring some major overhauls, stands little chance to win the WH regardless. If they agree to immigration reform, maybe that begins to change. Until then - no.

PhilsFan · 01-08-2014, 12:57 PM

I certainly don't mean to imply this is a White House-altering news story.

deep · 01-09-2014, 01:30 PM

I think it matters a lot

The rational GOP want Christie, they see him as their 'best' chance, which he probably is. McCain in 2004 and Romney in 2012 were the best the GOP had, other choices would have been complete blowouts like Goldwater in 64.

But now all the more Conservative GOP will be relentless against Christie, his one big playing card was that he was competent, and bi-partisan. This total fuck up puts out on main stage that that was always bullshit. This blowhard, with his populace ways, does not deserve the praise and accolades he has gotten.

Of course anything can happen in 2016. The race does not go to the swiftest and best.
It is only a two horse final race. A 3 legged horse can win.
George Bush proved that, if the other horse has 2 broken legs.

Irvine511 · 01-09-2014, 03:33 PM

let Tony Soprano be Tony Soprano.

PhilsFan · 01-18-2014, 09:40 AM

This isn't a good look:

Christie camp held Sandy relief money hostage, mayor alleges | MSNBC

LJT · 01-18-2014, 10:22 AM

Following from afar, Christie isn't liked by the rest of GOP, so he was unlikely to get their support, these issues currently are not likely to endear him to undecideds and certainly not to any democrats who may have previously liked him.

Does this mean he is dead in the water? Or can he ride it out?

the iron horse · 01-18-2014, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LJT

Following from afar, Christie isn't liked by the rest of GOP, so he was unlikely to get their support, these issues currently are not likely to endear him to undecideds and certainly not to any democrats who may have previously liked him.

Does this mean he is dead in the water? Or can he ride it out?

I think many in the Republican elite had already crowned Christie for the nomination. Like they did with McCain, Romney and the Bushes. Both Goldwater and Reagan, two true conservative outsiders had to fight to win the nomination.

I think this has stopped Christies nomination. If they try or he attempts, it will be a tough row to plow. Doing a two hour, often rambling, press conference did not help him. He seemed angry at times and presented a negative demeanor.

Irvine511 · 01-18-2014, 01:53 PM

In a way, it's too bad. My sense is he will survive, but the primaries are going to be tough for an "ethnic" like him, and some will hate him forever because he seems to like Obama, and you're not going to get very far with the GOP base if you don't paint O as anything less than the antiChrist.

I could consider voting for him, because he's from the northeast and you can't be a caveman when it comes to social issues and survive up here. And he doesn't seem like an Ayn Rand-toting free market idiot ideologue either. But I don't know too much about what really goes on in NJ, so I might just be responding to the positive media attention he usually gets.

PhilsFan · 01-18-2014, 03:57 PM

I think someone from Jersey would describe Jersey politicians as "too willing to fall into Jersey stereotypes."

deep · 02-02-2014, 04:00 PM

Lead legislator on Christie resignation: 'Premature'

he does not have to resign,
he could just hang in there and end up going to jail

the first one would be better, he deserves the second

05-26-2013, 07:16 PM	#42
Kieran McConville ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Hi, Violet Posts: 10,253 Local Time: 01:02 PM	As hard right as Reagan was, and became under the sway of his ideological mentors, he started out as an FDR Democrat. It was the 'Red Menace' that gradually turned him. So no, he definitely wouldn't fit in today's GOP. Nixon is practically a hippie communist compared to these guys. __________________

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deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,602 Local Time: 08:02 PM	Lead legislator on Christie resignation: 'Premature' he does not have to resign, he could just hang in there and end up going to jail the first one would be better, he deserves the second __________________

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05-26-2013, 08:17 PM	#43
digitize ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New York / Dallas / Austin Posts: 14,117 Local Time: 09:02 PM	Nixon would probably fit fairly comfortably into today's Democratic Party.

06-05-2013, 09:14 PM	#44
BVS Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: between my head and heart Posts: 41,232 Local Time: 10:02 PM	Caught On Audio: Texas Tea Party Leader, “The Republican Party doesn’t want black people to vote” \| FreakOutNation

07-10-2013, 06:42 PM	#45
Pearl Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 5,741 Local Time: 11:02 PM	Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists To Graduate High School The GOP is fighting so hard to maintain political power and influence in this country, they are hurting democracy.

07-10-2013, 10:58 PM	#49
Irvine511 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 34,215 Local Time: 11:02 PM	Some people have issues with modernity. The GOP speaks for them.

01-08-2014, 11:11 AM	#50
PhilsFan Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Philadelphia Posts: 19,218 Local Time: 11:02 PM	A bit of controversy for Governor Christie: Top Christie aide to Port Authority: 'Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee' - NorthJersey.com

01-08-2014, 12:48 PM	#51
U2DMfan Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: It's Inside A Black Hole Posts: 6,637 Local Time: 09:02 PM	I don't think stuff like that is going to matter too much. Sort of like Robert Gates new book that said both HRC and Biden admitted to opposing the Iraq surge in 2007 for political reasons. Whatever the case, there's dirt on everyone. I believe 2016 will be just like 2012 - a referendum on the big picture. The GOP, barring some major overhauls, stands little chance to win the WH regardless. If they agree to immigration reform, maybe that begins to change. Until then - no.

01-08-2014, 12:57 PM	#52
PhilsFan Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Philadelphia Posts: 19,218 Local Time: 11:02 PM	I certainly don't mean to imply this is a White House-altering news story.

01-09-2014, 01:30 PM	#53
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,602 Local Time: 08:02 PM	I think it matters a lot The rational GOP want Christie, they see him as their 'best' chance, which he probably is. McCain in 2004 and Romney in 2012 were the best the GOP had, other choices would have been complete blowouts like Goldwater in 64. But now all the more Conservative GOP will be relentless against Christie, his one big playing card was that he was competent, and bi-partisan. This total fuck up puts out on main stage that that was always bullshit. This blowhard, with his populace ways, does not deserve the praise and accolades he has gotten. Of course anything can happen in 2016. The race does not go to the swiftest and best. It is only a two horse final race. A 3 legged horse can win. George Bush proved that, if the other horse has 2 broken legs.

01-09-2014, 03:33 PM	#54
Irvine511 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 34,215 Local Time: 11:02 PM	let Tony Soprano be Tony Soprano.

01-18-2014, 09:40 AM	#55
PhilsFan Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Philadelphia Posts: 19,218 Local Time: 11:02 PM	This isn't a good look: Christie camp held Sandy relief money hostage, mayor alleges \| MSNBC

01-18-2014, 10:22 AM	#56
LJT Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Belfast Posts: 5,191 Local Time: 04:02 AM	Following from afar, Christie isn't liked by the rest of GOP, so he was unlikely to get their support, these issues currently are not likely to endear him to undecideds and certainly not to any democrats who may have previously liked him. Does this mean he is dead in the water? Or can he ride it out?

01-18-2014, 01:53 PM	#58
Irvine511 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 34,215 Local Time: 11:02 PM	In a way, it's too bad. My sense is he will survive, but the primaries are going to be tough for an "ethnic" like him, and some will hate him forever because he seems to like Obama, and you're not going to get very far with the GOP base if you don't paint O as anything less than the antiChrist. I could consider voting for him, because he's from the northeast and you can't be a caveman when it comes to social issues and survive up here. And he doesn't seem like an Ayn Rand-toting free market idiot ideologue either. But I don't know too much about what really goes on in NJ, so I might just be responding to the positive media attention he usually gets.

01-18-2014, 03:57 PM	#59
PhilsFan Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Philadelphia Posts: 19,218 Local Time: 11:02 PM	I think someone from Jersey would describe Jersey politicians as "too willing to fall into Jersey stereotypes."