The Even Gayer than the Gay thread - Page 23

**Headache in a Suitcase** · 01-01-2019, 07:36 AM

DaveC · 01-03-2019, 03:39 PM

i'm really getting a kick out of all this sudden concern and hand-wringing over the notion that there are openly gay men in the navy.

Hewson · 01-04-2019, 03:29 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmGuy0jievs

MrsSpringsteen · 06-21-2021, 08:35 PM

HENDERSON, Nev. -- Las Vegas Raiders defensive end Carl Nassib on Monday became the first active NFL player to come out as gay.

Nassib, 28, made the announcement in an Instagram post.

"What's up people?" Nassib posted. "I'm at my house here in West Chester, Pennsylvania. I just want to take a quick moment to say that I'm gay. I've been meaning to do this for a while now, but I finally feel comfortable enough to get it off my chest. I really have the best life, I've got the best family, friends and job a guy could ask for.

"I'm a pretty private person so I hope you guys know that I'm really not doing this for attention. I just think that representation and visibility are so important. I actually hope that like one day, videos like this and the whole coming-out process are just not necessary. But until then, I'm going to do my best and do my part to cultivate a culture that's accepting, that's compassionate and I'm going to start by donating $100,000 to the Trevor Project."

LuckyNumber7 · 06-21-2021, 08:43 PM

Go team!

DaveC · 06-22-2021, 06:57 PM

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...26608303161354

bono_212 · 06-22-2021, 11:20 PM

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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...26608303161354

This dumb-ass thread had me lmao:

https://twitter.com/_EthanB04/status...26875169804288

DaveC · 06-22-2021, 11:26 PM

that's a 10/10 troll.

bono_212 · 06-22-2021, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveC

that's a 10/10 troll.

Ah damn, I twittered wrong. Just the trolling was great, but the responses to the trolling are ALSO great: https://twitter.com/_EthanB04/status...27543741861891

LuckyNumber7 · 08-10-2021, 02:08 AM

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**Headache in a Suitcase** · 08-10-2021, 03:02 AM

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"did you ever wonder why America gets all our matches in prime time?"

MrsSpringsteen · 08-10-2021, 09:56 AM

Between the gay expressions of love and the political protests..must have been some Olympic sized freakouts.

Irvine511 · 08-10-2021, 11:25 AM

No wonder so many of the nativists on the American Right are finding inspiration in Hungary where LGBT+ folks (and immigrants) have been targeted by Orban.

LuckyNumber7 · 10-08-2021, 02:54 AM

So Dave Chapelle’s special… I just watched it. It’s honesty not as bad as it’s being made out by the masses.

If you’ve ever watched any of his specials, he’s always dancing the line and making some delicately placed normalization of gay and trans folks, albeit at their expense.

The only thing I will say is that he does unnecessarily make jokes about people who are probably tired of being the center of his joke. He’s not tangential to trans people or related in any way so it is a bit exhausting.

The whole situation is a bit disappointing. I wouldn’t want Netflix to pull that special at all. I always saw Dave as an important proto-bridge between trans people and black people. With black trans lives being some of the most marginalized and threatened, normalizing the conversation about trans people, even if through crude or mean humor, is important. He often chooses to do this at the expense of white people, with which I’m perfectly fine with. That was actually one of his quips in the special. Poorly executed overall with this special, but I know where he was trying to go.

DaveC · 10-08-2021, 05:10 AM

i gotta say i'm a little bit unclear how him proclaiming "i'm on team TERF" is an important positive step towards normalizing the conversation about trans people.

LuckyNumber7 · 10-08-2021, 11:04 AM

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i gotta say i'm a little bit unclear how him proclaiming "i'm on team TERF" is an important positive step towards normalizing the conversation about trans people.

Of course not. I still don’t think you can take that one statement out of his skit and determine that was his intended message.

DaveC · 10-08-2021, 03:01 PM

okay so pick whatever statement you want. he's been saying a bunch of transphobic bigoted shit for a long time now (beyond this particular netflix special) and i really fail to see how that can be spun into an ultimately positive thing for trans people.

were all those hacky stand-ups in the 90s attempting that dumb "i don't have a problem with gay people, it's the fags that i can't stand" chris rock rip-off doing a good thing and helping to normalize the conversation about gay people? of course not. actual gay people were doing that.

dave chappelle is a washed-up jerk who stopped being funny at least a decade ago and isn't helping anybody now by proudly saying TERFy nonsense and openly declaring support for (other) famous transphobes.

Irvine511 · 10-08-2021, 03:10 PM

I’ll try and watch this over the weekend.

I tend to like Chappelle, and haven’t personally been offended by him to my knowledge, but it sounds like this special is very trans focused.

LuckyNumber7 · 10-08-2021, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveC

okay so pick whatever statement you want. he's been saying a bunch of transphobic bigoted shit for a long time now (beyond this particular netflix special) and i really fail to see how that can be spun into an ultimately positive thing for trans people.

were all those hacky stand-ups in the 90s attempting that dumb "i don't have a problem with gay people, it's the fags that i can't stand" chris rock rip-off doing a good thing and helping to normalize the conversation about gay people? of course not. actual gay people were doing that.

dave chappelle is a washed-up jerk who stopped being funny at least a decade ago and isn't helping anybody now by proudly saying TERFy nonsense and openly declaring support for (other) famous transphobes.

I already spoke my feelings on this so I’m not going to say a bunch of things twice. He has a bad history of many things that do not age well. If you think he’s enabling hatred or bigotry, that’s a fair criticism. Im sure plenty of people in the early 2000s adopted a hard-r n word into their vocabulary. But if you think that he himself is bigoted, I think you’re (in general) wrong.

Do not accuse me of “spinning” this as though my beliefs are disingenuous.

DaveC · 10-08-2021, 05:05 PM

i certainly know that you are a sincere person and did not intend to imply otherwise, i hope you know that i respect your opinions. if i could rewrite that sentence i'd replace "spun into" with "presented as" since that is much closer to what i really meant.

i think we just plainly disagree on this topic and that's okay.

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DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: the killerwhaletank Posts: 23,070 Local Time: 03:36 PM	i'm really getting a kick out of all this sudden concern and hand-wringing over the notion that there are openly gay men in the navy. __________________

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DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: the killerwhaletank Posts: 23,070 Local Time: 03:36 PM	i certainly know that you are a sincere person and did not intend to imply otherwise, i hope you know that i respect your opinions. if i could rewrite that sentence i'd replace "spun into" with "presented as" since that is much closer to what i really meant. i think we just plainly disagree on this topic and that's okay. __________________

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06-21-2021, 08:35 PM	#444
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Thank you for your service Bono Posts: 29,001 Local Time: 03:36 PM	HENDERSON, Nev. -- Las Vegas Raiders defensive end Carl Nassib on Monday became the first active NFL player to come out as gay. Nassib, 28, made the announcement in an Instagram post. "What's up people?" Nassib posted. "I'm at my house here in West Chester, Pennsylvania. I just want to take a quick moment to say that I'm gay. I've been meaning to do this for a while now, but I finally feel comfortable enough to get it off my chest. I really have the best life, I've got the best family, friends and job a guy could ask for. "I'm a pretty private person so I hope you guys know that I'm really not doing this for attention. I just think that representation and visibility are so important. I actually hope that like one day, videos like this and the whole coming-out process are just not necessary. But until then, I'm going to do my best and do my part to cultivate a culture that's accepting, that's compassionate and I'm going to start by donating $100,000 to the Trevor Project."

06-21-2021, 08:43 PM	#445
LuckyNumber7 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 19,736 Local Time: 03:36 PM	Go team!

06-22-2021, 06:57 PM	#446
DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: the killerwhaletank Posts: 23,070 Local Time: 03:36 PM	https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...26608303161354

06-22-2021, 11:26 PM	#448
DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: the killerwhaletank Posts: 23,070 Local Time: 03:36 PM	that's a 10/10 troll.

08-10-2021, 02:08 AM	#450
LuckyNumber7 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 19,736 Local Time: 03:36 PM	I’ll let someone else Interference-caption this since I don’t really have any words left.

08-10-2021, 09:56 AM	#452
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Thank you for your service Bono Posts: 29,001 Local Time: 03:36 PM	Between the gay expressions of love and the political protests..must have been some Olympic sized freakouts.

08-10-2021, 11:25 AM	#453
Irvine511 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the West Coast Posts: 34,456 Local Time: 04:36 PM	No wonder so many of the nativists on the American Right are finding inspiration in Hungary where LGBT+ folks (and immigrants) have been targeted by Orban.

10-08-2021, 02:54 AM	#454
LuckyNumber7 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 19,736 Local Time: 03:36 PM	So Dave Chapelle’s special… I just watched it. It’s honesty not as bad as it’s being made out by the masses. If you’ve ever watched any of his specials, he’s always dancing the line and making some delicately placed normalization of gay and trans folks, albeit at their expense. The only thing I will say is that he does unnecessarily make jokes about people who are probably tired of being the center of his joke. He’s not tangential to trans people or related in any way so it is a bit exhausting. The whole situation is a bit disappointing. I wouldn’t want Netflix to pull that special at all. I always saw Dave as an important proto-bridge between trans people and black people. With black trans lives being some of the most marginalized and threatened, normalizing the conversation about trans people, even if through crude or mean humor, is important. He often chooses to do this at the expense of white people, with which I’m perfectly fine with. That was actually one of his quips in the special. Poorly executed overall with this special, but I know where he was trying to go.

10-08-2021, 05:10 AM	#455
DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: the killerwhaletank Posts: 23,070 Local Time: 03:36 PM	i gotta say i'm a little bit unclear how him proclaiming "i'm on team TERF" is an important positive step towards normalizing the conversation about trans people.

10-08-2021, 03:01 PM	#457
DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: the killerwhaletank Posts: 23,070 Local Time: 03:36 PM	okay so pick whatever statement you want. he's been saying a bunch of transphobic bigoted shit for a long time now (beyond this particular netflix special) and i really fail to see how that can be spun into an ultimately positive thing for trans people. were all those hacky stand-ups in the 90s attempting that dumb "i don't have a problem with gay people, it's the fags that i can't stand" chris rock rip-off doing a good thing and helping to normalize the conversation about gay people? of course not. actual gay people were doing that. dave chappelle is a washed-up jerk who stopped being funny at least a decade ago and isn't helping anybody now by proudly saying TERFy nonsense and openly declaring support for (other) famous transphobes.

10-08-2021, 03:10 PM	#458
Irvine511 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the West Coast Posts: 34,456 Local Time: 04:36 PM	I’ll try and watch this over the weekend. I tend to like Chappelle, and haven’t personally been offended by him to my knowledge, but it sounds like this special is very trans focused.