cobl04
45:33
I honestly think I have played a massive role in changing my parents' views on homosexuality. Not that they were ever hideous bigots about it, they just had that old-world, casually homophobic, probably against it just cos, sorta views.
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PhilsFan
Blue Crack Addict
My cousin is gay and no one in my extended family thought it was a big deal. They're all conservatives, too. I guess it's just different in the northeast in that respect. Everyone's Catholic, too, and no one really gives a shit.
CrashedCarDriver
Refugee
Have any of these points been raised?
1. What does this mean to 'adaptation'? Isnt it human nature to adapt? Its a shit thing, but imperfect humans have to live in an imperfect world. Gay people have survived to now getting married to people in the opposite sex and reproducing, their lives might be a 'lie' (but that is subjective). < - This is not homophobic, but in a survival of the fittest, being unable to adapt means perishing
2. Isnt this just an exercise in the canon of tolerance? To destigmatize homosexuality, to stop kids committing suicide because they were unable to handle the burden of being gay? so with this does this mean: "Its ok you can get married now"?
1. What does this mean to 'adaptation'? Isnt it human nature to adapt? Its a shit thing, but imperfect humans have to live in an imperfect world. Gay people have survived to now getting married to people in the opposite sex and reproducing, their lives might be a 'lie' (but that is subjective). < - This is not homophobic, but in a survival of the fittest, being unable to adapt means perishing
2. Isnt this just an exercise in the canon of tolerance? To destigmatize homosexuality, to stop kids committing suicide because they were unable to handle the burden of being gay? so with this does this mean: "Its ok you can get married now"?
cobl04
45:33
I hate Australia.
martha
Blue Crack Supplier
Is this a down side to a parliamentary system, or is it a peculiarly Australian failing?
CrashedCarDriver
Refugee
another couple of points
1. 90% of the world (or more) doesnt recognize homosexuality
2. marry someone of the opposite sex instead?
3. No marriages for anyone! Have a free for all instead?
1. 90% of the world (or more) doesnt recognize homosexuality
2. marry someone of the opposite sex instead?
3. No marriages for anyone! Have a free for all instead?
cobl04
45:33
A bit of both. The current govt is conservative and the party has a binding stance against SSM. They had a 6-hour meeting yesterday about whether or not they would allow party members to have a conscience vote, but decided against it. We now have an opportunistic cunt of prime minister saying that if his govt wins another term we'll have a plebiscite in 2017 (also his sister is gay lol). A lot of conservatives and arseholes saying 'oh well this is great! Put it to the people and if it passes, well good'. But that's such a cop-out because it's all political point-scoring and shows no care whatsoever for yknow, gay people. Otherwise they'd just have a fucking plebiscite or referendum now.
Had it been put to parliament it still probably would have failed but the whole thing just makes me so fucking angry. An absolute embarrassment.
Had it been put to parliament it still probably would have failed but the whole thing just makes me so fucking angry. An absolute embarrassment.
Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
another couple of points
1. 90% of the world (or more) doesnt recognize homosexuality
2. marry someone of the opposite sex instead?
3. No marriages for anyone! Have a free for all instead?
Why don't you just go ahead and marry someone of the same sex?
... To what end?
Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
another couple of points
1. 90% of the world (or more) doesnt recognize homosexuality
2. marry someone of the opposite sex instead?
3. No marriages for anyone! Have a free for all instead?
Not exactly sure what the point you're trying to make is, but I'll give it a shot.
1 Adaptation means survival of the fittest, but animals also adapt to their surroundings. Why do people become gay? We don't know, but some of us are and some of us are not. This could very well be an evolutionary adaptation. The earth is over populated, humans are becoming a disease to the planet, gay people don't procreate so they're very much useful to keep populations in check.
2 And yes, it is very much an excercise in tolerance. Kids commit suicide not because they cannot handle the burden of being gay, but because they feel alienated when they get bullied all the time because OTHER people cannot handle it. Being able to get married tells them that it's okay indeed, that they're normal people like everybody else, and now finally getting the same rights. And it shows others that it's not okay to just terrorise someone's life because they're gay.
1 And your other point, 90%? That's rather a lot. I would say it's far lower now. And even if it's true, then what? What are you trying to say with this, because the majority of people don't accept it, we shouldn't either? A long time ago 100% of the US was pretty damn positive towards slavery... so should we not have discarded that then?
2 Why would I marry someone I have no feelings for?
3 that would be a fair point, if marriage was completely discarded, that would be the most equal option. But it's never going to happen since it's too rooted in our society.
So this leaves me, what exactly is the point you're trying to make? You are posting rather random statements that make very little sense..
cobl04
45:33
That's literally every single one of his posts ever. Don't engage an idiot.
bono_212
Blue Crack Distributor
I seriously think he might have every single member of the forum on ignore.
Don't insult other posters.
Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
I don't think I've encountered him before, the avi and name don't ring a bell. So I'd say it's fair to give a person I don't know a chance.
bono_212
Blue Crack Distributor
He's been here for years. He makes a post that's random off the wall and then NEVER engages in conversation.
Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
Hm, pardon me for trying then. He's welcome to change his ways and try to explain his views though.
It's been a quiet while anyway.
It's been a quiet while anyway.
bono_212
Blue Crack Distributor
Absolutely. I just understand the frustration, is all. He does this in B&C like once a month. If he actually comes and engages in conversation, it's a welcome change of pace.
cobl04
45:33
You're totally right. That thing he wrote 2 and a half years ago gives you a free pass.
trojanchick99
Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB
Imagine if you will, that this woman was a Muslim man who refused to marry people because he follows sharia law. We'd have the religious right screaming bloody murder from every corner. But because it's a "nice christian" lady, she's a martyr. Please keep your religion out of my government.
Defying court, Kentucky clerk denies gay-marriage licenses ‘under God’s authority’ - The Washington Post
Defying court, Kentucky clerk denies gay-marriage licenses ‘under God’s authority’ - The Washington Post
Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
If she doesn't want to marry gay people, for wathever reason possible... maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe she should not get a job where you marry people??
deep
Blue Crack Addict
this happens in many countries all over the world everyday. are people going there and demanding that those people abandon their culture, faith and customs?
Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
If it interferes with their job serving people of all cultures, faiths and customs, then yeah... either they would have to get over themselves or get a different job that doesn't stroke with their ideals.
trojanchick99
Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB
Because, the last time I checked this country wasn't a theocracy.
Trust me, in my line of work, there are gobs of people I'd like to say, nope, no housing for you, but not housing someone because I don't like them isn't legal, so I shut my mouth and do my job.
BoMac
Self-righteous bullshitter
Kim Davis has been married four times–twice to the same man–so her standing up for "traditional marriage" and using her religious beliefs as justification is hilarious.
trojanchick99
Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB
It gets better:
So she can commit adultery, but marrying two men or two women is against her religious beliefs.
So she can commit adultery, but marrying two men or two women is against her religious beliefs.
Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
I almost feel bad for this woman. She seems like a patsy for larger, evil forces.
Almost.
She may well resign after a long drawn out battle and do the Dugger speaking circuit and book tour and rake in the inevitable $$$.
Almost.
She may well resign after a long drawn out battle and do the Dugger speaking circuit and book tour and rake in the inevitable $$$.
Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
It gets better:
So she can commit adultery, but marrying two men or two women is against her religious beliefs.
Way to stick up for what you believe in... meaninng that you can do whatever you like but others? Noooooooo
We must defend the sanctity of divorce. With guns.
Oregoropa
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
She's in the wrong line of work.
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