I never know how to respond to these immigration threads.
I am an immigrant, and it so happens that my family has been very successful in our adopted country. I guess when my Dad worked 3 jobs for peanuts, he was "taking" them from the people here. And I guess when I went to law school, I took somebody's spot as well.
A lot of the time, people born in a country don't really appreciate just how much harder immigrants have to work. And that there is a certain, strong incentive for us to succeed, because we have nothing and contrary to popular belief, are not handed down anything. There are a lot of misconceptions here, and people don't seem to grasp just how ingrained certain advantages are to people who are not immigrants. So if I chose to work 3x as hard as somebody who wasn't an immigrant, I don't feel like I need to apologize for that either.
I never know how to respond to these immigration threads.
I am an immigrant, and it so happens that my family has been very successful in our adopted country. I guess when my Dad worked 3 jobs for peanuts, he was "taking" them from the people here. And I guess when I went to law school, I took somebody's spot as well.
A lot of the time, people born in a country don't really appreciate just how much harder immigrants have to work. And that there is a certain, strong incentive for us to succeed, because we have nothing and contrary to popular belief, are not handed down anything. There are a lot of misconceptions here, and people don't seem to grasp just how ingrained certain advantages are to people who are not immigrants. So if I chose to work 3x as hard as somebody who wasn't an immigrant, I don't feel like I need to apologize for that either.
for sharing your story!
A few years back, there was a row here in the Netherlands, because companies are not eager to hire interns who have Arab names. One guy, whose parents are Moroccan, decided to change his name on his resume into an ultimate Dutch name like "Kees de Vries", after being turned down by all of the companies he applied for internship. That guy was a straight A student, representative, polite and seemed to have all the chances to be hired. His professors were also surprised when all the companies turned him down!
After the name change he was finally asked for a lot of job interviews.
Three years ago, the Dutch newspaper Trouw did a research where Dutch and Moroccan boys had to call 62 companies for an internship. The boys had the same background and mastering of the Dutch language and called to the same companies. The result: 39% of the Dutch boys was hired and only 17% of the Moroccan boys.
(Here is the link, but I could only find an article in Dutch Marokkaanse jongens gediscrimineerd bij stage - Trouw )
Is this racist? Or a normal and natural tendency to prefer one's own 'type'?
You guys really seem quite far behind in recent BNP policy.
The BNP have Jewish members and have support from ethnic minorities. Dont believe too much in what liberal media have to say.
Griffin was in his mid- to late-30s when he made some of his most incendiary remarks. In 1998, he was convicted of distributing material likely to incite racial violence, for which he received a two-year suspended sentence. He wrote in his own publication, The Rune: 'I am well aware that orthodox opinion is that 6m Jews were gassed and cremated or turned into soup and lampshades... I have reached the conclusion that the "extermination" tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria.'
He is unabashed about this statement when I remind him of it. 'I'd still say those three,' he says, 'but I'd add "and fact" if I was being polite and reasonable about it. The reason people like me aren't polite and reasonable sometimes about the Holocaust is nothing to do with anti-Semitism or wanting to give offence. It is to do with frustration with how it is used to prevent any genuine debate on questions to do with immigration, ethnicity and the cultural survival of the western nations.'
Pushed further on the Holocaust - what he has in the past called the 'Holohoax' - he becomes more animated and more intransigent. His face reddens and his voice grows uncomfortably loud. The lunchtime murmur of hushed conversation and hesitant cutlery is drowned out by a full-bloodied reappraisal of Nazi atrocities. 'The only reason the Nazis were so fanatically anti-Jewish was the very close correlation between some Jews and communism,' he continues. He insists the number of deaths at Auschwitz has been inflated, and is emphatic that no more than 3.5m Jews had perished under Nazi rule.
Cactus Annie, did you just read a thing I posted? Or must you insiste on spouting things so evidentally from the pages of the daily mail, so evidently written to cause such public anger and hate? That sells papers; the truth doesn't. And the truth is that the employment problem we're currently facing will NOT go away should we suddenly decide to rid the country of all non-english people. It's just easier to think that. We don't have the most lax laws in the EU, the whole point of the EU is that we all have THE SAME LAWS!
That's not a project to realize! That would only count for ecomomic refugees, who can't have an asylum seeker status in European countries.
The majority of political refugees can't go back to their country, even if they want to!
People like Indian ICT professionals for example, are planning to go back to their countries anyway, it's the same as what we call 'expats' when Europeans go to work as a professional abroad for a few years. (why are they called expats in the first place while foreign professionals are seen and treated as foreigners?)
No one leaves his/ her country for fun. They are forced to.
This from an interview only 7 years ago.
Andrew Anthony meets Nick Griffin | From the Observer | The Observer
Lovely man
YouTube - BNP MEP Nick Griffin + KKK Terrorist
YouTube - Nick Griffin - Holocaust Denier (BNP)
YouTube - BNP leader on Obama
Come on, that is an extremely naive view you hold there if you really think that he suddenly has become a better man who even respects Jews. Are you really falling for that?
Im not falling to any view. Im just saying they have Jewish members. Its a fact.
When they decided Muslims rather than Jews were the principle enemy of the white race, they probably recruited a small number of Jews who were ignorant of the party's history.
Big deal.
Im not falling to any view. Im just saying they have Jewish members. Its a fact.
In a RECENT interview he admits the holocaust did happen, not like he could deny it any more. But the BNP allows Jewish members so your 3 youtube clips dating as far back as the early 00's did nothing to change BNP membership policy lol.
(The BNP) is committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration and to restoring, by legal changes, negotiation and consent the overwhelmingly white makeup of the British population that existed in Britain prior to 1948
Membership of the BNP is strictly defined within the terms of, and our members also self define themselves within, the legal ambit of a defined "racial group" this being "Indigenous Caucasian"
The term they use for a non white is " racial tourist "
Whats with the rolleyes ? i said they allowed Jewish members. Not once did i mention anything to do with Black or asian folk. Its like me picking out a random fact about an apple tree and inserting a rolleyes smiley.
The term they use for a non white is " racial tourist "
vaz02 said:People haven't given the party the chance to speak so how can they possibly defend themselves or put there point across ? Instead they get secondhand drivel from hack journo's hell bent on selling papers and scare mongering the public.
Is this racist? Or a normal and natural tendency to prefer one's own 'type'?
Why should there be a row over this finding? Has Morocco conducted similar research on the fortunes of native jobseekers vis-a-vis Dutch immigrants? (These are largely rhetorical questions, but I suspect the answer to the last one is a negative.)
In a RECENT interview he admits the holocaust did happen, not like he could deny it any more. But the BNP allows Jewish members so your 3 youtube clips dating as far back as the early 00's did nothing to change BNP membership policy lol.
The term they use for a non white is " racial tourist "
These people are not protesting though, they are harassing and physically assaulting elected officials. Legally elected at that.
In a court of law the defendant has a right to make his case.
Those anti democracy protesters seem the type who terrorise scientists who test on animals and in an act of revenge dig up the bodies of family relatives.
Bonoa, no offence but did you see the protests in the UK this past week ? they have been verging on physical assault. If i did that to a random person on the street I would of been arrested.
The BNP doesnt bother me because they will never get enough seats to make a difference. Im glad they won seats in Europe though, they need to be addressed and the only way to do that is to confront them and have a debate on policy with all the main party's taking part. The BNP will have the full glare of the media on them now after winning 2 seats in Europe.
The far left are just as bad as the party they protest against. Oh no... the irony.