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Old 02-14-2020, 12:35 AM   #1
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The Climate Crisis

i'm not gonna resurrect a long-dead thread called "global warming revisited" at this point because that name seems too simplistic.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...st-time-record

antarctica went above 20 degrees. this is all happening worryingly fast.

meanwhile, canada is about to break ground on the largest oilsands facility ever built which is meant to run at full capacity until at least 2060 and is forcing pipeline construction through unceded first nations land.

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Trump is terrible and all, but this is what really keeps me up at night.
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I say this all the time about climate change; even if it is a complete hoax and total nonsense what is wrong with looking after the planet anyway?

It's disgusting how the need for money is more important than what kind of world future generations will live in.
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I feel more hopeful today than I have in a long time, mostly because of the way the financial industry and institutional investors are behaving. Look no further than the annual letter from Larry Fink (BlackRock CEO) - the others are all following like sheep, but in a good way.

Good odds that some of that oil is never coming out of the ground.
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I feel more hopeful today than I have in a long time, mostly because of the way the financial industry and institutional investors are behaving. Look no further than the annual letter from Larry Fink (BlackRock CEO) - the others are all following like sheep, but in a good way.

Good odds that some of that oil is never coming out of the ground.
Do you live on solar or wind power? And what kind of electric car do you drive?? Just curious....
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i'm not gonna resurrect a long-dead thread called "global warming revisited" at this point because that name seems too simplistic.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...st-time-record

antarctica went above 20 degrees. this is all happening worryingly fast.

meanwhile, canada is about to break ground on the largest oilsands facility ever built which is meant to run at full capacity until at least 2060 and is forcing pipeline construction through unceded first nations land.
It’s really fucked up and sad! I feel sad for our grand children especially who will pay dearly for our fuck ups!
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Do you live on solar or wind power? And what kind of electric car do you drive?? Just curious....
Not only a trump supporter but a climate change denier too? Top quality guy mr Gzus!
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I feel more hopeful today than I have in a long time, mostly because of the way the financial industry and institutional investors are behaving. Look no further than the annual letter from Larry Fink (BlackRock CEO) - the others are all following like sheep, but in a good way.

Good odds that some of that oil is never coming out of the ground.
I want to see it go beyond lip service though. This letter is good because it speaks about actually fucking exiting investments in damaging businesses. There are so many companies/bodies etc that bang on about climate change but don't do anything to actually address it.
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Do you live on solar or wind power? And what kind of electric car do you drive?? Just curious....


I live in two cities where cars aren’t necessary. We have one, that’s almost 10 years old and in great condition because we drive it so little. We recycle everything we can. Our yard is specifically landscaped to absorb excess rainwater so it doesn’t leak into nearby waterways. Low flush toilets and showers. We also eat very little beef as it’s the most CO2 unfriendly food out there. If we buy a second car, which we may have to due to changing life circumstances, it will be electric.

I know a favorite tactic is to try some type of call out — “yeah, well, you rode on an airplane once” — which is cheap and stupid and unfair and also pointless. Simply because someone believes in doing as much as they can to stop climate change doesn’t mean that dropping out of a world run by fossils files is even possible.

And besides, for all the supposed climate virtue I listed early, I do the single most important thing that makes 1000x more of a difference than any individual action I could take:

I don’t vote for Republicans.

That’s literally the best thing you can do for the planet. Vote them and their rapacious, earth-raping Leader, out of office.
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That man is helping to further worsen, and speed up it's effects.

I don't have kids, but I've a wide and long view. I've 3 generations of younger cousins, and friends I love who will suffer; I tend to care about humanity, and the planet in general. So yeah.

As someone who did a lot of protesting in the 80's about supporting various Renewable energy methods we could have been quite better off. Reagan took Prs Carter's solar panels off the WH roof etc.
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Btw DAVE sorry to hear about Canada's latest snafu Life knows we have enough of those down here!
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Do you live on solar or wind power? And what kind of electric car do you drive?? Just curious....
Do you enjoy sticking your face in front of am exhaust pipe and bathing in the waters of the Anacostia?? Just curious....

You'd think that, seeing as you care so much about what the political parties were 50-100 years ago, that you'd be a conservationist like fellow republican and occasional independent conservative Theodore Roosevelt. Or do you only go down that road when it fits your narrative of pwning the libs?
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I say this all the time about climate change; even if it is a complete hoax and total nonsense what is wrong with looking after the planet anyway?

It's disgusting how the need for money is more important than what kind of world future generations will live in.
Exactly. Even if in your heart of hearts this is just cyclical, why on Earth would you not want to breath cleaner air and have, ya know, wild life and shit?
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This is weak. It’s called virtue signaling, same as when Bernie and Warren travel on private jets, etc.

Be an example, so someone can see you’re serious. As you can see, NONE of the Democrats live by their own crap principles they preach to everyone else about climate, income inequality, socialism, giving, compassion, none of it, zero.

Yet you guys think they are pillars of virtue. “Do as I say, not as I do” is weak BS.

Put your money where your mouth is, walk the talk libs.
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This is weak. It’s called virtue signaling, same as when Bernie and Warren travel on private jets, etc.

Be an example, so someone can see you’re serious. As you can see, NONE of the Democrats live by their own crap principles they preach to everyone else about climate, income inequality, socialism, giving, compassion, none of it, zero.

Yet you guys think they are pillars of virtue. “Do as I say, not as I do” is weak BS.

Put your money where your mouth is, walk the talk libs.
what steps are you taking to help improve our environment?
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what steps are you taking to help improve our environment?
Umm, I throw away my garbage.

The “Climate Crisis” is another liberal sham that makes people like Al Gore millionaires.

According to these climate experts, we all were gonna gonna die in 1990, 2000, Gore said all the icecaps would be gone by 2014, it’s a joke. The Green New Deal is just more expensive crap.

The Earth’s climate changes, man has not been doing anything that is causing these changes, or lack of changes, the verbiage changes all the time based on what’s convenient.

And before you say “”well scientists have said”...., yeah , handpicked liberal scientists, but not nearly as many, or as nearly the authority that libs would have you believe.
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Umm, I throw away my garbage.

The “Climate Crisis” is another liberal sham that makes people like Al Gore millionaires.

According to these climate experts, we all were gonna gonna die in 1990, 2000, Gore said all the icecaps would be gone by 2014, it’s a joke. The Green New Deal is just more expensive crap.

The Earth’s climate changes, man has not been doing anything that is causing these changes, or lack of changes, the verbiage changes all the time based on what’s convenient.

And before you say “”well scientists have said”...., yeah , handpicked liberal scientists, but not nearly as many, or as nearly the authority that libs would have you believe.
okay sure, let's say human-influenced climate change is all manufactured alarmist bullshit.

but we're clearly polluting our rivers and lakes and oceans, and chopping down forests and belching chemicals into the air which is killing off animals and insects at a pretty alarming rate. you can see that happening with your own eyes.

do you think that we should be doing something to reduce those activities and at least try to slow down the rate of extinctions? or is that just part of "the earth's climate changes"?
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Umm, I throw away my garbage.



The “Climate Crisis” is another liberal sham that makes people like Al Gore millionaires.



According to these climate experts, we all were gonna gonna die in 1990, 2000, Gore said all the icecaps would be gone by 2014, it’s a joke. The Green New Deal is just more expensive crap.



The Earth’s climate changes, man has not been doing anything that is causing these changes, or lack of changes, the verbiage changes all the time based on what’s convenient.



And before you say “”well scientists have said”...., yeah , handpicked liberal scientists, but not nearly as many, or as nearly the authority that libs would have you believe.


Oh please. This is just parody.
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but we're clearly polluting our rivers and lakes and oceans, and chopping down forests and belching chemicals into the air which is killing off animals and insects at a pretty alarming rate. you can see that happening with your own eyes.

do you think that we should be doing something to reduce those activities and at least try to slow down the rate of extinctions? or is that just part of "the earth's climate changes"?
Well put
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