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Old 02-16-2020, 05:05 PM   #21
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Umm, I throw away my garbage.

The “Climate Crisis” is another liberal sham that makes people like Al Gore millionaires.

According to these climate experts, we all were gonna gonna die in 1990, 2000, Gore said all the icecaps would be gone by 2014, it’s a joke. The Green New Deal is just more expensive crap.

The Earth’s climate changes, man has not been doing anything that is causing these changes, or lack of changes, the verbiage changes all the time based on what’s convenient.

And before you say “”well scientists have said”...., yeah , handpicked liberal scientists, but not nearly as many, or as nearly the authority that libs would have you believe.
I had a guy argue with me regarding an article about 500,000 muscles dying in a beach. The article mentioned something about low tides and he asked me the question how can there be tides if the so called climate scientists are claiming that the ocean levels are rising! When I explained that tides were the result of the gravitational pull of the sun and moon and had nothing to do with rising sea levels, he told me he was a science teacher and he knew what he was talking about! Somehow he reminded me of you!
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:16 PM   #22
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And yes I agree with others here, even if the climate wasn’t changing, we are still polluting at an alarming rate causing many animals to die. What harm could it do to try and strive for a cleaner environment???? What is it with deniers that they have such a problem with us wanting a cleaner earth??? Honestly what do you have to lose?
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:23 PM   #23
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That’s just one of thousands of examples of what climate change is doing! I feel sad for our grandchildren! Ps that’s a satellite image if mt Killimonjoro, like many glaciers, they are disappearing sadly. I suggest the deniers go to a place like the Columbia ice fields in the border between Alberta and BC and you can see firsthand how fast that particular glacier has retreated in just 50 years.
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:34 PM   #24
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That’s just one of thousands of examples of what climate change is doing! I feel sad for our grandchildren! Ps that’s a satellite image if mt Killimonjoro, like many glaciers, they are disappearing sadly. I suggest the deniers go to a place like the Columbia ice fields in the border between Alberta and BC and you can see firsthand how fast that particular glacier has retreated in just 50 years.
Pps here is an interesting link of comparisons of glaciers then and now!
https://www.indiatimes.com/culture/t...ay-232887.html
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Frankly I think Bernie should be forced to take a horse and buggy everywhere he goes.
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This is weak. It’s called virtue signaling, same as when Bernie and Warren travel on private jets, etc.

Be an example, so someone can see you’re serious. As you can see, NONE of the Democrats live by their own crap principles they preach to everyone else about climate, income inequality, socialism, giving, compassion, none of it, zero.

Yet you guys think they are pillars of virtue. “Do as I say, not as I do” is weak BS.

Put your money where your mouth is, walk the talk libs.
and this is why we can't have nice things
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Frankly I think Bernie should be forced to take a horse and buggy everywhere he goes.
What’s he gonna do when all of your Green New Deal goes into effect?

Won’t gasoline and cow farts be illegal??
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The “Climate Crisis” is another liberal sham that makes people like Al Gore millionaires.
Wall Street is having a major come to Jesus moment on climate change.

The world's largest investment fund is divesting from all thermal coal investments, and others are following suit. Fossil fuels will be next on the list and much of that exploratory oil we read about will realistically never come out of the ground (once the investors pull out and that IS coming, the only question is when).

Financial institutions are now syndicating sustainability-linked loans (i.e. the interest that corporations pay for debt service is tied directly to their sustainable/green performance). This just started in the last year or so and is in its infancy, but is probably the way of the future.

These are not people doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. But because they know full well that the only way to deal with climate change is to radically change our approach, begin investing in sustainable infrastructure (civil and social) and build in some resilience to what is about to come.

Everything you've said here just affirms that you're a dinosaur when it comes to climate change and you've already been left behind even by such well known radical leftists as Wall Street CEOs and hedge fund managers. If you were a thinking person, you'd ask yourself why.
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Won’t cow farts be illegal??
No you'd still be legal
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Combating the climate crisis probably starts with the rapid scaling back of the world's number one polluter: the United States military.
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The “Climate Crisis” is another liberal sham that makes people like Al Gore millionaires.



According to these climate experts, we all were gonna gonna die in 1990, 2000, Gore said all the icecaps would be gone by 2014, it’s a joke. The Green New Deal is just more expensive crap.



The Earth’s climate changes, man has not been doing anything that is causing these changes, or lack of changes, the verbiage changes all the time based on what’s convenient.



And before you say “”well scientists have said”...., yeah , handpicked liberal scientists, but not nearly as many, or as nearly the authority that libs would have you believe.


Climate models have been accurate in predicting global warming for 50 years and came extremely close to the actual temperatures: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019...global-warming

Almost every single climate scientist will say that climate change is real and caused by humans. The global temperature has never risen as fast as is occurring now. But there is nothing anyone can say that will convince you because you’re willfully ignorant of science and hate liberals to the point where you will ignore all data about climate change.
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Old 02-17-2020, 03:59 PM   #32
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Nope, this isn’t possible. I looked back at every single meme saved on my phone, not one of them says anything about this.

Fake news. Liberal science.
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some good news amid all the doom and gloom:

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The Guardian view on the blue whale’s comeback: an ocean’s glory restored
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News that the biggest mammal is returning in numbers to Antarctica signals a conservation triumph
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“Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell’s heart I stab at thee; for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at thee.” Captain Ahab’s splenetic, dying declaration of defiance, as Moby Dick destroys his whaling ship and sends it below the waves of the Pacific Ocean, is among the most famous passages in Herman Melville’s extraordinary novel.

In reality, such triumphs of the hunted over the hunter were a fantasy in the brutal world of industrial whaling. The biggest cetacean of them all, the blue whale, had all but disappeared from the Southern Ocean by the time a ban on hunting it was introduced in 1967.

Sightings of the largest mammal ever to live on the Earth had been vanishingly rare in the region since then. Not any more. A survey of coastal waters around the island of South Georgia in the sub-Antarctic, has yielded remarkable, uplifting results. In just over three weeks, in the krill-rich waters of what was once their principal feeding ground, the movements of 55 Antarctic blues were recorded by the British Antarctic Survey. The finding was described as “truly, truly amazing” by one cetacean specialist. It suggests that when a comprehensive audit, due in 2021, is carried out, there is a good chance that the species will prove to be in full recovery mode, as are humpbacks and other whales in the southern hemisphere.

The blue whale belongs to the category of “charismatic megafauna” – a rather unattractive way of describing those animals which capture the public imagination and help drive environmental and biodiversity campaigns. Three years ago, the Natural History Museum installed a 25m skeleton of a blue and named it Hope, intending to inspire new generations to build a sustainable future.

There has been criticism of this kind of approach, some of it on the grounds that the fate of creatures with less obvious appeal can be ignored. But the return of the world’s most majestic ocean travellers to southern waters should serve as a showpiece for wider possibilities of conservation. Ecological wrongs can be righted, or at least mitigated, with sufficient will and organisation.

The more general comeback of the whale – for which environmental campaigners should take a great deal of credit – can be an inspiration for victories yet to be won. It could also, conceivably, act as an added spur to action on the climate emergency. Twenty-first century Captain Ahabs are limited to a few stubborn whaling outposts these days; but warming oceans, which disrupt food chains and migratory rhythms, are becoming a lethal threat.

Of the 55 blue whales identified, some were seen but others were only heard through recorded audio. Their song recalls somewhat the deep, resonant sound of a tuba. The music of the southern seas was not the same without these orchestral manoeuvres in the dark. We must ensure the Antarctic blue is back to stay.
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An official at the Interior Department embarked on a campaign that has inserted misleading language about climate change — including debunked claims that increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is beneficial — into the agency’s scientific reports, according to documents reviewed by The New York Times.

The misleading language appears in at least nine reports, including environmental studies and impact statements on major watersheds in the American West that could be used to justify allocating increasingly scarce water to farmers at the expense of wildlife conservation and fisheries.

The effort was led by Indur M. Goklany, a longtime Interior Department employee who, in 2017 near the start of the Trump administration, was promoted to the office of the deputy secretary with responsibility for reviewing the agency’s climate policies. The Interior Department’s scientific work is the basis for critical decisions about water and mineral rights affecting millions of Americans and hundreds of millions of acres of land.
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Old 04-22-2020, 07:19 AM   #35
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With the pace, we are damaging the environment, I think we can see the apocalypse with our own eyes. The govt. think that they are becoming a superpower and strengthening their economy but in fact, all the nations are marching towards their own destruction.

We are just blind-folded with dollar bills that's all.
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121 degrees in LA County (Woodland Hills). Highest ever recorded for the county.
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121 degrees in LA County (Woodland Hills). Highest ever recorded for the county.
That's just insane, and not good for wildfires obviously. I read that one of the wildfires was caused by a gender reveal party. Pyrotechnic device that reveals blue or pink smoke. People need to stop with that foolishness, most especially in record heat in the midst of wildfires.

The family is facing fines and criminal charges.
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That is correct. We are such a ego driven species. The gender reveals with the smoke / explosions need to be outlawed if not already.

There are fires in East County San Diego at moment. Alpine. It’s made the sky / air a little different this weekend.

There’s a crazy graph of Colorado. Middle of the state has Snow color, but the eastern and western edges are in the fire color zones.
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There’s a crazy graph of Colorado. Middle of the state has Snow color, but the eastern and western edges are in the fire color zones.
Saw on the news yesterday that Denver was going from a high of 100 on Sunday to a high of 36 Tuesday. No wonder they were one of the first to legalize marijuana, you'd have to be high to live there.
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Saw on the news yesterday that Denver was going from a high of 100 on Sunday to a high of 36 Tuesday. No wonder they were one of the first to legalize marijuana, you'd have to be high to live there.
Yes I heard that. Also heard some of those areas will be getting up to 6 inches of snow! That’s just mind blowing given that the day before it was near 100 degrees!
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