Terrorist attacks Women's Health clinic, killing 3.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by BoMac

I haven't heard any arguments about arming the clinicians at Planned Parenthood like they do about teachers when there's a school shooting.

I wonder what the difference is?

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If we armed fetuses, we wouldn't have as many abortions.

[nbelcik]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

If we armed fetuses, we wouldn't have as many abortions.

-Ben Carson, probably


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[trojanchick99]

No, Ben Carson is victim blaming the fetuses, if they'd only have fought back they'd be alive now.


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[Moonlit_Angel]

On a different, but still sort of related tangent for a moment, I'm wondering how the pro life crowd's been reacting to Jeb's recent thing of "hell yeah", he'd kill baby Hitler if he had the chance. If there's been any outcry, I've yet to hear about it.

Anywho. This story. Just...yeah .

It's funny, too, how quiet the GOP is being in response to this tragic event. Especially considering how often they've been spouting off about and attacking the organization in general in all their political campaigns and debates and whatnot of late. Curious, that.

Also, Irvine, awesome post.

[Vlad n U 2]

Was Jeb Bush's baby Hitler comment discussed to any great length here? That was probably one of the biggest missing-the-point statements I've heard from politicians, and there have been a lot.

[Galeongirl]

Woa.. people actually still rally at abortion clinics there? Wowzers. Whatever happened to that separation of church and state?

Fine if you don't agree with abortion, don't get an abortion then. But for fuck's sake let other people make their own choices.

[Kieran McConville]

Originally Posted by Vlad n U 2

Was Jeb Bush's baby Hitler comment discussed to any great length here? That was probably one of the biggest missing-the-point statements I've heard from politicians, and there have been a lot.

What is there to discuss? That a serious contender for presidential office was standing in a room where this was a topic of debate pretty much ends the conversation.

[DaveC]

Originally Posted by Galeongirl

Woa.. people actually still rally at abortion clinics there? Wowzers. Whatever happened to that separation of church and state?

Fine if you don't agree with abortion, don't get an abortion then. But for fuck's sake let other people make their own choices.

In Toronto there's a group of about a dozen teenagers (pretty sure they're a church youth group) who spend their entire summer vacations standing on the busiest corners downtown with 4'x4' posters of aborted fetuses. Sunrise to sunset, every single day. It's infuriating.

[BEAL]

I blame the media for this. They used to have a duty to report on stories, but most importantly, report on facts.

I don't believe I saw one outlet call bullshit on all the lies about PP. instead they may have an "opinion" piece that asks "is it true?"

Isn't the medias job to present the facts?

We go to wars, get no information on policy, and allow and fan the flames on hateful fear-mongering.

Had people come out and called bullshit on "baby parts" of PP heavily edited video, maybe we don't have lunatics scared out of their mind and ready to kill to protect whatever bullshit narrative they believe


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[deep]

Originally Posted by DaveC

In Toronto there's a group of about a dozen teenagers (pretty sure they're a church youth group) who spend their entire summer vacations standing on the busiest corners downtown with 4'x4' posters of aborted fetuses. Sunrise to sunset, every single day. It's infuriating.

it's just a front

they're selling drugs,

[Galeongirl]

Originally Posted by DaveC

In Toronto there's a group of about a dozen teenagers (pretty sure they're a church youth group) who spend their entire summer vacations standing on the busiest corners downtown with 4'x4' posters of aborted fetuses. Sunrise to sunset, every single day. It's infuriating.

Don't these kids have anything better to do? Like, helping other people, doing good deeds, getting a friggin' job....

[Moonlit_Angel]

I remember, when I lived in Nebraska, there were lots of signs along various highways saying some variation of "Choose Life" or "Abortion stops a beating heart" or whatnot. The pro-lifers can be VERY vocal, for sure.

Originally Posted by Galeongirl

Woa.. people actually still rally at abortion clinics there? Wowzers. Whatever happened to that separation of church and state?

I dunno. Ask our politicians that question. The GOP has been obsessively trying to defund Planned Parenthood for some time now, and put numerous restrictions on when women can get abortions, and trying to bring their religious beliefs into the equation as though they're a valid argument for their stance.

Originally Posted by Galeongirl

Fine if you don't agree with abortion, don't get an abortion then. But for fuck's sake let other people make their own choices.

That's just too hard a concept for some people to figure out, sadly. I remember one of the big arguments conservatives made against Obamacare was, "The government will be getting involved in your personal health decisions, and telling you what to do! That goes against everything this country stands for!"

Apparently women's health issues are an exception to their "government interference" concerns.

Also, BEAL, excellent post. Yes. The GOP's BS and lies about Planned Parenthood and abortion statistics and facts in general should be getting called out WAY more often.

Course, then again, some people will never listen no matter what, 'cause, "librul media!" and all .

[corianderstem]

Oh fuck this person, seriously.

GOP lawmaker: Planned Parenthood is the ‘real culprit’ in the shooting | The Colorado Independent

PP's response is wonderful:

“Our thoughts and prayers are with the family members of those who lost their lives in this horrific attack. We won’t even dignify this with a response.”

[bono_212]

That's disgusting.

[martha]

Yes, the violence of women's health care.

What a fucking idiot.

[Moonlit_Angel]

“Planned Parenthood has no shame,” Windholz said. “These facts and overall mission of the abortion industry would easily send anyone over the hill who wasn’t rational.”

She's got some SERIOUS nerve talking about being rational. Holy. Shit.

Is it really, truly, honest to God THAT fucking hard for anyone in the GOP to just simply say, "This is a horrible, tragic event, and we send our thoughts and condolences to the victims' families." in response to this? Seriously?

And they actually have the audacity to claim they're "pro-life". Assholes.

Also, thanks to comments like the ones from Windholz, or Cruz and his "transgender leftist" BS, or Fiorina, I do not, under any circumstances, want to hear them or the GOP at large bitching about politicizing tragedies ever again.

(On a significantly lighter note, the few comments I saw being left on that article made me rather happy.)

[anitram]

Originally Posted by Moonlit_Angel

And they actually have the audacity to claim they're "pro-life". Assholes.

They are pro-fetus. Once the baby is born it's more commonly known as a "welfare problem".

[Galeongirl]

So.. there's an abortion "industry" now? What the heck is wrong with these numbnuts..

[Moonlit_Angel]

Originally Posted by anitram

They are pro-fetus. Once the baby is born it's more commonly known as a "welfare problem".

Pretty much.

[martha]

Do you think any idiot Republicans will blame developmentally disabled people for this most recent shooting?