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I feel sorry for anyone who thinks porn is real sex. You have a girl in 6th or 7th grade who is just at the dawn of finding out what it's like to kiss a guy, the pressures and awkwardness of sex, and you want to tell her that gang bangs and facials are normal real sex? Quote:
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I think ladyfreckles meant something else here. I suspect she meant her father having "the talk" with her rather than looking up porn online.
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I know. I was trying to point out to her that they are not the same thing, and that her painting it as "easy" is missing the point entirely.
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This is exactly what I'm talking about, though worded much more poignantly. |
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As long as you teach someone that they never have to do anything they don't want to do, I don't see a problem with it. That's the mentality I was raised with and I turned out to be fairly normal. ...fairly. Quote:
Moral development done by schools for children is done in elementary school, not middle school. But you guys keep assuming I'm making some blanket statement about teachers K-12 and not seeing the distinction I am making between telling a kid that hitting other kids is wrong and telling a classroom that a teacher is a bad person because she had sex on video for money. Quote:
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I've said "perceived mistake" several times. I guess since I didn't add the perceived in the last few times I'm contradicting myself? It's that other people refer to her choice as a mistake. Maybe I didn't put "mistake" in quotations like I should have, but that's not contradictory. Quote:
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I agree it is the parents' job to teach sexual morality to their kids. But unfortunately, because there are still parents out there who are reluctant to talk about sex with their kids, the schools have to step in. It shouldn't be like that, but that's life.
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So the major concern in this thread, as far as I understand it, is that the students will no longer take this teacher seriously. Here's the solution. You confront the issue openly rather than trying to pretend that sexuality somehow doesn't exist or is some kind of illicit activity. The teacher and possibly administration acknowledge that, yes, people are sexual and sexual behavior exists among pretty much everyone from adolescence on. Administration then cracks down on any student who is taunting or harassing the teacher. This whole thing sounds to me like the school administration was more concerned about the complaints of the parents than the right of this teacher to have a life outside school. Simply acknowledging that people are naturally sexual is not akin to telling middle schoolers to go out and start having a bunch of indiscriminate, unprotected sex. |
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I agree that any student harassing the teacher should be disciplined or even expelled, but the teacher will be blamed for bringing the problem on herself. |
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Two things for me.
First, she showed poor judgment by being active in the porn industry while she was a student teacher. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together and an ounce of common sense would have realized that this is a potential long-term problem. Second, this was several years ago, she seemingly hasn't acted in a porn film in something like 6 or 7 years, so when does the statue of limitations expire? In high school I had a teacher who was an alcoholic and went to rehab in the middle of a school year and was eventually reinstated, I think in the following semester. My feeling is that there are all kinds of things in people's pasts that could be seen as poor decisions or life choices but that no longer have bearing on what the teacher is doing at the moment. I frankly never cared what my teachers did in their spare time. So long as they are not criminals, I don't see them as role models on a personal level at all. If they are professional in the classroom, put a lot of thought into their teaching plans, make sure that all the students are benefiting from their teaching style, that's all I ask for and I don't think that we should be entitled to more. |
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I guess I learned no morals from my 8th grade math teacher who was a homosexual and didn't hide it behind a facade and openly shared her excitement about the child she and her partner were adopting.
I also learned nothing from my high school history teacher who used events from our cities history to open, up US history as a whole to us and as a result, impart the importance of my cities culture instead of thinking of it as a hickass town to escape from as soon as possible
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I'm with Axver, anitram, and iron yuppie on this one.
I think teachers can and should be role models, since they're in a notable position and have a particular sway over helping children's minds to grow and expand. That said, however, even role models mess up, and while, as anitram said, this wasn't exactly the brightest move she could make simply because OF the outcry many would have over it were it revealed, and while I know I would've found it bizarre to find out any teachers I had had did things like that (for all sorts of reasons), at the same time...is she a good teacher? Does she help kids with their work? Does she take the time to talk to them if they're having difficulty with a project or a test or something? Does she know her material? And so on? If so, then I'd say that it'd be stupid to let her go because of some choices she made in her personal life that really aren't any of the parents' (or kids') business to begin with. Parents are worrying about the effect on their kids and don't want to have to explain this stuff to them, but by making a big issue out of it and helping to get her fired with their complaints, ironically, they're likely going to have to wind up doing way more explaning to their kids than they originally would've. |
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Me and Roger had a discussion on what's the difference between erotica and erotic drama, and porn. We came to the conclusion that porn is more explicit than erotica and it's made to titillate. Erotic drama's do actually have a narrative
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There are very few people out there who can walk on water! Most have a Skelton or two in their closet. Digital age has changed the permanent nature of our past transgressions!
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The interwebs and social media will force the prude amongst us all to get over it... because pretty soon we won't be able to elect anyone or have any teachers who don't have some sort of skeleton in their closet.
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