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Old 12-30-2009, 07:40 PM   #81
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Once again, Cheney proves himself a blowhard lackey for the GOP.

Someone lit his balls on fire on an airplane? WHY AREN'T WE BOMBING SHIT YET???
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Yeah, the value of Cheney's opinion on what a presidential administration should do is pretty much non-existent to me.
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Old 12-30-2009, 11:01 PM   #83
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How about travelers who are ultra-cooperative and polite, and get a secondary search anyway for no good reason?
This is how my brother in law is. Not only is he Malaysian (looks/race), but he's not a US citizen (though did get a green card now after getting married) and he suspects he is also targeted because of his age, since his parents don't have the same problems when they fly together. He's a really good sport about it, but it means that whenever someone brings them to the airport, they need to be there ANOTHER extra hour early just in case.
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I have a friend at college from there. When he first came here this past summer, they nearly deported him because he had his name shortened by the US government, which meant it didn't match up with his identification from home.
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This is how my brother in law is. Not only is he Malaysian (looks/race), but he's not a US citizen (though did get a green card now after getting married) and he suspects he is also targeted because of his age, since his parents don't have the same problems when they fly together. He's a really good sport about it, but it means that whenever someone brings them to the airport, they need to be there ANOTHER extra hour early just in case.
last time i flew i got a secondary search at the gate because i was using my passport as id on a domestic us flight. i was unimpressed (especially given how many times i'd passed security checkpoints in the 30 hours before that), but i could at least see why. it took everything in me to not start quizzing the guy going through my stuff if he even knew what he was looking for.

now the black woman who ended up sitting across the aisle from me, using her tennessee driver's license? i can she why she was pissed off.
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Old 12-31-2009, 01:20 AM   #86
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Once again Cheney nails it.
we've got an enemy we can't really name, and we can't really place them except they're all over that muslim part of the world.


it's perfect for fear mongering.
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Once again Cheney nails it.
Once again Cheney attempts to use widespread fear-mongering to beat the citizens of US into submission. Reelect the GOP, then you'll be safe!

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Old 12-31-2009, 02:22 AM   #88
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i agree with this cartoon, not only does the white house need to be aware of so many security breakdowns, but so does any port allowing travel anywhere in the world, not just to the united states.

but that's not what it means, is it?
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we've got an enemy we can't really name
They call themselves jihadists. Works for me.

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and we can't really place them except they're all over that muslim part of the world.
Don't forget posh London neighborhoods and Texas military bases.
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it's perfect for fear mongering.
It's also wildly politically incorrect which is presumably why some pretend so hard that the threat doesn't exist.
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Once again Cheney nails it.
If you honestly believe this, then you're honestly a lost cause...
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They call themselves jihadists. Works for me.
so what are we supposed to bomb exactly, jihadistan? it sounds to me like this whole thing was the work of one complete idiot. not exactly worth starting a war over, especially when we've not cleaned up the playpens in afghanistan and iraq yet.
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Don't forget posh London neighborhoods and Texas military bases.
even better for fear mongering. they've everywhere!
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not exactly worth starting a war over, especially when we've not cleaned up the playpens in afghanistan and iraq yet.
A few more (well-publicized this time) drone attacks over Yemen ought to clean up inept retaliation attempts. Couldn't possibly escalate.

It's been almost a week, what's taking so long???
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Once again, Cheney proves himself a blowhard lackey for the GOP.

Someone lit his balls on fire on an airplane? WHY AREN'T WE BOMBING SHIT YET???
And who are we suppose to be bombing? Innocent people who had nothing to do with this? We can't just invade an entire country.
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Considering that these kinds of threats aren't going away, perhaps it's time to take some tips from a country that's already perfected high security air travel? Compared to the West, it looks like Israel has got it down to a fine art.

The 'Israelification' of airports: High security, little bother - thestar.com

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While North America's airports groan under the weight of another sea-change in security protocols, one word keeps popping out of the mouths of experts: Israelification.

That is, how can we make our airports more like Israel's, which deal with far greater terror threat with far less inconvenience.

"It is mindboggling for us Israelis to look at what happens in North America, because we went through this 50 years ago," said Rafi Sela, the president of AR Challenges, a global transportation security consultancy. He's worked with the RCMP, the U.S. Navy Seals and airports around the world.

"Israelis, unlike Canadians and Americans, don't take s--- from anybody. When the security agency in Israel (the ISA) started to tighten security and we had to wait in line for — not for hours — but 30 or 40 minutes, all hell broke loose here. We said, 'We're not going to do this. You're going to find a way that will take care of security without touching the efficiency of the airport."

That, in a nutshell is "Israelification" - a system that protects life and limb without annoying you to death.
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I don't know if that link is going to work for everyone. I was invited to join a facebook group called "Arabs Are The Bomb".
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They call themselves jihadists. Works for me.

Don't forget posh London neighborhoods and Texas military bases.


It's also wildly politically incorrect which is presumably why some pretend so hard that the threat doesn't exist.

So what should the President do? What would a President McCain or Palin be doing in the wake of this incident?

Also, could you provide a link to an article where Obama indicates that the threat from jihadists doesn't exist? Since he's pretending so hard, it shouldn't be hard to find.
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Considering that these kinds of threats aren't going away, perhaps it's time to take some tips from a country that's already perfected high security air travel? Compared to the West, it looks like Israel has got it down to a fine art.
They discussed that after 9/11 also. El Al has around 40 flights a day vs. around 35,000 in the US. They should borrow some of the tips that require less manpower though (many obvious ones).
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That, in a nutshell is "Israelification" - a system that protects life and limb without annoying you to death.
Yeah, right.

Have any of you flown on El Al? They routinely take way longer to screen, they are known for emptying planes and re-loading them, etc. Most reputable travel agents will tell you to add an hour or two to your arrival at the airport when flying with them due to this reason.

I think they are excellent at what they do, but the idea that we'd put up with their screening methods because they're not a hassle is simply absurd.
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