Should smoking be illegal? - Page 2

mama cass · 06-26-2012, 01:55 AM

compared with the UK, attitudes to smoking are still shockingly dire here in France - people still smoke around children and babies, smoke when pregnant, even people you would think were incredibly well-educated, etc... it's pretty bad and drives me completely nuts! it's pretty much THE national past-time...

mama cass · 06-26-2012, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PhilsFan

Gotta use a vaporizer to smoke it. Much cleaner.

is that the "bong"? (sorry, old lady moment LOL)

i thought that was actually meant to be worse? i.e. it's too pure and you end up inhaling like a billion times more than you would normally? no?

cobl04 · 06-26-2012, 02:35 AM

Oh please tell me you North Americans don't call bongs "vaporizers". That is ridiculous.

indra · 06-26-2012, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cobl04

Oh please tell me you North Americans don't call bongs "vaporizers". That is ridiculous.

She's not North American. ;-)

mama cass · 06-26-2012, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by indra

She's not North American. ;-)

i think cobl was referring to PhilsFan ha

[i'm with cobl - i've never heard it described as a "vaporizer" before lol]

indra · 06-26-2012, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mama cass

i think cobl was referring to PhilsFan ha

[i'm with cobl - i've never heard it described as a "vaporizer" before lol]

Wait...you were the one who wrote: is that the "bong"? after quoting PF mentioning a vaporizer.

Vaporizers and bongs are two different things. A vaporizer uses heat to release the compounds in pot without actually burning it.

Jive Turkey · 06-26-2012, 06:12 AM

A vapourizer isn't a bong. Cobbler, please don't tell me you guys call gas stations 'servos'

mama cass · 06-26-2012, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by indra

Wait...you were the one who wrote: is that the "bong"? after quoting PF mentioning a vaporizer.

yeah i was asking if it was the same thing, and i think cobl assumed it was the same thing too and that North Americans called it a vaporizer instead of a bong? LOL

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Originally Posted by indra

Vaporizers and bongs are two different things. A vaporizer uses heat to release the compounds in pot without actually burning it.

ahhhhhhh okay!

as you can see, i'm clearly clueless, being such a naive, sheltered, clean living girl myself

PhilsFan · 06-26-2012, 12:37 PM

Yeah, vapes are totally different from bongs. Hopefully everyone is clear on that.

ladyfreckles · 06-26-2012, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonMelon

This made me laugh so hard I about cried.

Must be all the weed.

There is no science proving marijuana to "cause" mental illness. That's absolute bullshit. There are many case studies proving marijuana to exacerbate specific mental illnesses in individuals that are susceptible to those particular issues, but certainly nothing to prove causation. The best I've seen is a rough correlation between those who smoke pot before age 12 and future issues with depression. People have been smoking pot for a long, long time, so you'd think we would have discovered some long-term side effects by now. Nope. Smoking anything is harmful to your lungs though.

It can induce psychosis though. Like all mind altering substances it should be used with caution. However this isn't a thread about cannabis and I really hope it doesn't derail into such.

As for the argument about putting in your body whatever you want, I can agree to a degree. Someone else pointed out that we should ban cheeseburgers and while that's extreme I do think we should start making it difficult to buy mass quantities of food (i.e. get rid of the supersize menu). If you want to drink 64oz of soda at once that's fine by me but you're going to have to go out of your way to do it.

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Originally Posted by Liesje

I don't think it should be illegal but I wouldn't be sad if it was. Is that fair?

That's kind of how I feel.

Caleb8844 · 06-26-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyfreckles

I do think we should start making it difficult to buy mass quantities of food (i.e. get rid of the supersize menu). If you want to drink 64oz of soda at once that's fine by me but you're going to have to go out of your way to do it.

I cannot think of one logical reason to do this.

Dfit00 · 06-26-2012, 04:32 PM

Rationing food will be somewhat visible in about 50 to 100 years from now when there will be no land left to grow food due to overconsumption and overpopulation.

Is that a logical reason?

mama cass · 06-26-2012, 05:15 PM

it sickens me that over-eating is an ever-growing problem in the West, while elsewhere people are starving

cobl04 · 06-26-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dfit00

Rationing food will be somewhat visible in about 50 to 100 years from now when there will be no land left to grow food due to overconsumption and overpopulation.

Is that a logical reason?

O wise one, tell us more

U2DMfan · 06-26-2012, 05:38 PM

How about we just let individuals govern their own fucking bodies?

Jive Turkey · 06-26-2012, 05:56 PM

If people want to eat a quadruple bacon burger and a super big gulp, that's their business, but it's also my business to judge the fat asses for doing it

corianderstem · 06-26-2012, 05:59 PM

eh, never mind.

LemonMelon · 06-26-2012, 06:07 PM

Let people do whatever they want and tax the shit out of it.

BVS · 06-26-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by U2DMfan

How about we just let individuals govern their own fucking bodies?

That's great in theory, but there is a collective price that we pay for those that choose early, slow and costly deaths.

Caleb8844 · 06-26-2012, 06:50 PM

There're some arguments against governmental supplied/tax funded healthcare to be made about this, but this probably isn't the place.

What about perfectly in shape, healthy individuals who want to occasionally eat unhealthy meals?

06-26-2012, 01:55 AM	#21
mama cass Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,293 Local Time: 04:23 AM	compared with the UK, attitudes to smoking are still shockingly dire here in France - people still smoke around children and babies, smoke when pregnant, even people you would think were incredibly well-educated, etc... it's pretty bad and drives me completely nuts! it's pretty much THE national past-time... __________________

06-26-2012, 06:50 PM	#40
Caleb8844 War Child Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 662 Local Time: 09:23 PM	There're some arguments against governmental supplied/tax funded healthcare to be made about this, but this probably isn't the place. What about perfectly in shape, healthy individuals who want to occasionally eat unhealthy meals? __________________

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06-26-2012, 02:35 AM	#23
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 59,011 Local Time: 01:23 PM	Oh please tell me you North Americans don't call bongs "vaporizers". That is ridiculous.

06-26-2012, 06:12 AM	#27
Jive Turkey ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,646 Local Time: 11:23 PM	A vapourizer isn't a bong. Cobbler, please don't tell me you guys call gas stations 'servos'

06-26-2012, 12:37 PM	#29
PhilsFan Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Philadelphia Posts: 19,218 Local Time: 11:23 PM	Yeah, vapes are totally different from bongs. Hopefully everyone is clear on that.

06-26-2012, 04:32 PM	#32
Dfit00 War Child Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Palm Beach, FL Posts: 897 Local Time: 11:23 PM	Rationing food will be somewhat visible in about 50 to 100 years from now when there will be no land left to grow food due to overconsumption and overpopulation. Is that a logical reason?

06-26-2012, 05:15 PM	#33
mama cass Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,293 Local Time: 04:23 AM	it sickens me that over-eating is an ever-growing problem in the West, while elsewhere people are starving

06-26-2012, 05:38 PM	#35
U2DMfan Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: It's Inside A Black Hole Posts: 6,637 Local Time: 09:23 PM	How about we just let individuals govern their own fucking bodies?

06-26-2012, 05:56 PM	#36
Jive Turkey ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,646 Local Time: 11:23 PM	If people want to eat a quadruple bacon burger and a super big gulp, that's their business, but it's also my business to judge the fat asses for doing it

06-26-2012, 05:59 PM	#37
corianderstem Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 64,498 Local Time: 08:23 PM	eh, never mind.

06-26-2012, 06:07 PM	#38
LemonMelon More 5G Than Man Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywoo Posts: 68,784 Local Time: 08:23 PM	Let people do whatever they want and tax the shit out of it.