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Old 11-16-2015, 02:47 AM   #141
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Sorry, but I generally view Nougayrede as being pretty clueless at the best of times, which is shown effectively in the facial expression The Guardian chose for her columns.
A number of the prominent Guardian mugshots are fairly insufferable. But that's a story for another day!
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Old 11-16-2015, 05:01 AM   #144
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Old 11-16-2015, 05:10 AM   #145
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Has been viewed nearly 2.5 million times in three hours. 80,000 FB shares. That warms my heart a bit

For once, I've actually seen more positivity than negativity.
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Old 11-16-2015, 05:11 AM   #146
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If we're so scared of a member of ISIS sneaking into the country, perhaps we shouldn't make it so easy to obtain weapons of death.
Suicide belts and AK's.
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Old 11-16-2015, 05:32 AM   #147
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i need a French language version of that video!!

because that is exactly the problem here in France as Le Pen wants to polarize everyone - i mean, why target music lovers? why target Charlie Hebdo? they won't go after the FN who really are the intolerant hateful racists because they fecking need them...
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Trying to tie this back to gun control? Really? So we can be even more defenseless? And of course, ISIS won't find any other way to make or find a weapon.


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Well there's no way of stopping it, right? Not without a border wall, deportation and denial of refugees?

In that case I think we'd really want to limit the availability of automatic weaponry, as it seems clear that these are the types of attacks they're interested in.

So how can any sane and logical person not see a connection?

Ohhhhh wait. That's right.

Maybe we should have background checks and waiting lists to make sure terrorist infiltrators can't get guns. Or is that asking too much?

Surely the potential of members of a group who's main intention is wiping non believers from the face of the earth entering a country with incredibly easy access to automatic weapons is a frightening thought. Surely we should do everything to prevent this, right?
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The criminals, the terrorists will always find a way to get the weapons they need.


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The criminals, the terrorists will always find a way to get the weapons they need.


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So is that a reason to make it even easier for them to get them? How in the world is that sane logic?

By making it hard to acquire a weapon, you weed out quite a lot of crooks who cannot get them easily anymore...
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i need a French language version of that video!!

because that is exactly the problem here in France as Le Pen wants to polarize everyone - i mean, why target music lovers? why target Charlie Hebdo? they won't go after the FN who really are the intolerant hateful racists because they fecking need them...
What they don't need are countries that will accept hundreds of thousands of Muslim refugees. What they don't need are are countries that will refuse to react exactly how they want them to. Good thing they're not going to get those countries.

The response to this attack is basically "Hey, you know that thing we've been doing for 15 years that A) hasn't worked and B) has created the situation we're dealing with now? We'll let's keep at it!"

Goddamn it. At every turn the military experts do exactly the wrong thing because they refuse to think.
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The criminals, the terrorists will always find a way to get the weapons they need.
This is a silly and incorrect argument.
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The criminals, the terrorists will always find a way to get the weapons they need.
So we might as well make it easier for them?

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funny, they're thinking the same thing
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What they don't need are are countries that will refuse to react exactly how they want them to. Good thing they're not going to get those countries.
what they want is to start a civil war in France - that is what we have to avoid

and WW3 - hopefully we won't go down that path either
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What they don't need are countries that will accept hundreds of thousands of Muslim refugees. What they don't need are are countries that will refuse to react exactly how they want them to. Good thing they're not going to get those countries.

The response to this attack is basically "Hey, you know that thing we've been doing for 15 years that A) hasn't worked and B) has created the situation we're dealing with now? We'll let's keep at it!"

Goddamn it. At every turn the military experts do exactly the wrong thing because they refuse to think.
out of interest, what do you suggest?
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So might as well cut out the middle man, amirite???
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