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Old 11-18-2015, 04:45 PM   #261
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The reporting on this is unnecessary propaganda. It's clickbait due to a currently combustible, anti-Muslim western world environment.

The fact that they're booing can be over many things. It can be that they are booing the culprits. It can be that they are booing extremism (need we forget, Turkey had a *very* similar bombing, recently?). It can be that they are booing a bad group of fans. Someone saying "Allah hu Akbar" doesn't mean they're promoting terrorism, either. We just so easily relate that to "uh oh this guy is about to blow himself up." I don't need to translate it for anyone, but "God is great" is something they say in Muslim-Arab countries. Regularly. Over many things.

Now, I imagine Turkey does have a lot of bad apples in it. But no, I don't suddenly think that all of their soccer fans are jihadi sympathizers.

Note, I'm not necessarily saying this *at you* pearl.
I didn't think they were cheering for terrorism either, and you're right, we in the West associate "Allahu Akbar" with terrorism because so many terrorists say that. So, there's the knee-jerk reaction. But I was confused and didn't know what to think.

I'm glad this was discussed because it helps put things in perspective when cultural differences make things confusing. I could imagine when Muslims in the Middle East have the same reaction when someone says "God Bless America" - since it takes on a whole new meaning over there.
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Old 11-18-2015, 04:48 PM   #262
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I'd never judge a people based on their sports fans.

But I do judge them based on their elected officials. Rand Paul is a jackass.


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I'd never judge a people based on their sports fans.

But I do judge them based on their elected officials. Rand Paul is a jackass.

No amount of looking like Petyr Baelish will save you in my eyes, now, Rand.
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Can someone please explain what was this about?






Supposedly, they were booing Greece, Turkey's history long enemy, or the fact that there's never a moment of silence for when Turks are killed in terrorist attacks. Either way, I'm uneasy with this. It seems insensitive.


Turkey football fans boo minute's silence for Paris victims, chant 'Allahu Akbar' - Times of India
Maybe they were saying Boo-urns.
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But I do judge them based on their elected officials. Rand Paul is a jackass.


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Maybe they were saying Boo-urns.
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This is so fucking dumb. Of course you take them in. Just don't be stupid about it.
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I'd never judge a people based on their sports fans.

But I do judge them based on their elected officials. Rand Paul is a jackass.

So let's just dump whoever gets in on the streets without help so they will love our country even more then? Rather than showing them how different it can be?
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According to Turkish people they were apparently chanting support for the victims (this same chant occurred during a moment of silence for the victims of a similar attack in Turkey).
Was it? Genuinely asking here, otherwise I'm inclined to make the assumption that in many countries, football fanatics lean towards nationalism/reactionary politics - and that these sorts of incidents may in some way mimic the Turkish state's not-so-hidden collusion with ISIS. And in regards to the recent Ankara attacks, given the way the HDP (the party whose rallies have been attacked on numerous occasions) are portrayed by the aforementioned Turkish state, this sort of reaction to that would not have surprised me as well.
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I'd never judge a people based on their sports fans.

I do. New England people are the worst.
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I do. New England people are the worst.
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any of these refugees found to be St Louis Cardinals fans can go the fuck back to Syria.
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For F.B.I. agents, watching an Islamic State suspect in the United States is a study in anxiety. Being an Islamic State sympathizer is not against the law. Neither is expressing hatred for the United States on Twitter. Buying guns is also legal, and investigators have watched nervously as terrorism suspects passed background checks and purchased guns more than 2,000 times in the past decade, according to government data.
A terrorism suspect monitored by the FBI can pass a background check to buy guns in this country. If this isn't insane, I don't know what is.
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A terrorism suspect monitored by the FBI can pass a background check to buy guns in this country. If this isn't insane, I don't know what is.
You can thank the NRA for that bit of insanity.
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Because what good is a Good Guy with a gun if the Bad Guys don't have them either. Fuck the NRA.
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Terrorists have a constitutional right to bear arms. If you take it away from them, I mean, come on... slippery slope, guys.
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Because what good is a Good Guy with a gun if the Bad Guys don't have them either. Fuck the NRA.
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