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Old 09-20-2016, 06:58 PM   #141
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Well, considering I've never touched a gun, I'm not about to take that kind of risk holding one and trying to use it. Even if I was given all the instructions, the guy telling them to me could be wrong in how he gives them (especially if he's mortally wounded and unable to think or talk clearly as a result).

Instead, my focus would be on either saving the wounded guy if possible (or at least getting him out of the line of fire, anyway, so he doesn't wind up having more bullets in him than what's already there), or, if I see the situation is hopeless for him, I'll take cover and try and look for some means of escape if there's any.

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I have some experience with a 9 mm handgun, so I take the shot.
You do that. And if you miraculously happen to have the perfect aim to take the shooter down and manage not to hit any innocent people or random parts of the place in the process, then I'll be impressed.

(Course, there's another possibility: the police/SWAT arrive at that moment, you're the first one they see with a weapon, they naturally assume you could be the shooter, and they either threaten to shoot or actually do shoot at you.

But nah, we all know that those kinds of mistakes have NEVER happened before, right?)
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Old 09-20-2016, 09:17 PM   #142
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Here's a hypothetical. You are in an active shooter situation with one assailant who has people cornered and is popping them off one by one. You are in the crowd. A mortally wounded concealed carry holder hands you his gun. Gives you instructions on how to use it. Maybe you have experience with firearms or not at all. But the dying man has give you instructions on how to empty the clip of 9 shots.

Do you use the firearm to kill or wound the assailant?

Do you hand it to somebody else?

Do you take your chances and do nothing, hoping the Swat team breaks in at any moment?

I have some experience with a 9 mm handgun, so I take the shot.


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This is dumb.

You try to kill him.

That doesn't change the fact that if the first guy didn't have the gun the entire bullshit hypothetical scenario is for naught.
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Old 09-20-2016, 09:34 PM   #143
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Bam! You're dead. The talking gave you away.
Will you sing "Dust in the Wind" at my funeral BVS?
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Old 09-20-2016, 10:13 PM   #144
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Will you sing "Dust in the Wind" at my funeral BVS?

You just tell me what key


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Old 09-20-2016, 11:35 PM   #145
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Here's a hypothetical. You are in an active shooter situation with one assailant who has people cornered and is popping them off one by one. You are in the crowd. A mortally wounded concealed carry holder hands you his gun. Gives you instructions on how to use it. Maybe you have experience with firearms or not at all. But the dying man has give you instructions on how to empty the clip of 9 shots.
Well this sounds totally plausible.
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Old 09-21-2016, 08:24 AM   #146
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Well this sounds totally plausible.
If you're scripting "Die Hard 69: Just Don't Die"
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Old 09-21-2016, 08:35 AM   #147
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Hypothetical situation:
All other civilized countries implement gun law restrictions and all these countries have a lower rate of death by gun than the US.
Do you also implement gun laws or do you sit around mourning victims?
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Hypothetical: you create these gun restriction laws in the United States. Does gun violence change? Or is it already ingrained in the culture?

Personally I think it'd take three or four decades to see gun violence rates in the US meet the rest of the developed world.
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Old 09-21-2016, 10:45 AM   #149
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Well it looks like I'm taking Headache in a foxhole and we are oil and water on this board.


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Here's a hypothetical. You are in an active shooter situation with one assailant who has people cornered and is popping them off one by one. You are in the crowd. A mortally wounded concealed carry holder hands you his gun. Gives you instructions on how to use it. Maybe you have experience with firearms or not at all. But the dying man has give you instructions on how to empty the clip of 9 shots.

Here's a hypothetical: You are in a country that has very restrictive gun laws. There's no active shooter, it now turned into a guy wielding a knife.

Now what's harder to defend against? A nutjob with a gun or a nutjob with a knife?
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This is dumb.

You try to kill him.

That doesn't change the fact that if the first guy didn't have the gun the entire bullshit hypothetical scenario is for naught.
seriously. To say it's dumb is generous. And misses the point which is:


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Here's a hypothetical: You are in a country that has very restrictive gun laws. There's no active shooter, it now turned into a guy wielding a knife.

Now what's harder to defend against? A nutjob with a gun or a nutjob with a knife?
Bingo.
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If you're scripting "Die Hard 69: Just Don't Die"
I've noticed that the second amendment defense force seems to consider themselves extensions of John McClane and Jack Bauer.

Maybe one day their moment will come and they can save a room full of hostages.
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Old 09-21-2016, 05:08 PM   #153
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Speaking of Jack Bauer anybody else gonna check out Designated Survivor tonight?


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Speaking of Jack Bauer anybody else gonna check out Designated Survivor tonight?


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I am, even though I'm sure it's the kind of show I'll get tired of after a few episodes.
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I've owned a Jack Bauer for president shirt for 9 years. I'm excited to see my campaigning finally pay off.

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Takes a similar premise to a Tom Clancy book where a hijacked airliner smashes into the Capitol the State during of the Union and Jack Ryan becomes President.

Hoping to see a West Wing-Homeland-24 hybrid as the episodes continue.

Better have some decent writers to pull that off.


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The reviews I read are kind of mediocre. I will probably PVR it. Having an almost-toddler means I go to bed at 9:30, if I can crawl that far.
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Got a 72 from Metacritic. Pretty positive
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In other news Anthony Weiner is going to be grilled by NYC SVU after it was revealed he was sexting with a 15 year old girl since January.

Expect a 'ripped from the headlines' episode later this season.

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