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i wish i had been born in sparta so i could go cradle to grave ripped as hell
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i'm sure rich white male filmmakers living in the hollywood hills in the 1930s and 1940s did a fantastic job of capturing the daily realities of life for the average american during the great depression and world war 2.
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I guess when you're voting a reality tv star as president then you actually believe tv to be real?
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that article is a laugh. walking around like that is hardly an american anomaly. americans take it to an extreme, what with the sweats in public and such, but this article acts as if no other country wears shorts outdoors. one of those photos even shows a man in a tank top. this so-called casual look is not new, despite what hollywood would like you to believe.
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Without going to the opposite extreme, of ridiculing everything just because it's Iron Horse or whatever, it's worth noting that a few generations ago, for regular people, photos - even non-studio photos - were more of a special deal. And so they can give a skewed idea of what people wore as a matter of course.
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Well don't get too carried away, I'm not a fan of his faux-folksy wisdom to put it mildly. As for you, I assume you are a performance artist of sorts. Nor am I a fan of 98% of what gets posted in this subforum. Basically I'm not on any of your sides. But yeah, there's too much easy piling on at times. |
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I don't believe in sides, not much of a joiner myself
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Well yeah, it's revisionist, and I don't really buy into it. I'd say that people, even people who weren't rich or white, might occasionally have been caught in the 1930s wearing a suit coat and hat, or a 'good' dress (I have a photo of my grandparents outside a church one Sunday circa 1937 dressed exactly that way, and trust me, they were as poor as dirt), but outside of the professional world it was never an everyday thing.
In fact, at least from the 1940s onward, I'm struck (again, photos can only tell a partial story) by how much some casual or everyday sort of wear resembles more modern times. Some combination of a shirt and slacks, some combination of pants or jeans and a tshirt, you can see all of this in some form from the 1950s on, and certainly from the 1960s on, in many people's photo albums. As a rough rule of thumb, modern high level political and corporate figures dress like early 20th century professionals. Early twentieth century political elites often dressed in the kind of aristocratic wear that is now consigned to Ascot race day and the most ultra formal of occasions. |
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I'd forgotten all about the Oregon-standoff Bundys and was thinking, geez, what's Al in for this time.
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my heart really goes out to those guys. they're really struggling.
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I don't know why it would be such a mystery that people would dress up for planned photos during a time when they would have to have them taken, developed, and printed by a professional photographer. They also had to dial an operator to place a call. Now the vast majority of the world has the technology to do both those things, with a small computer that fits in their pocket.
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Hell, surely most of us have experiences of dressing well for a family portrait when we were kids, or our parents making us look good for the annual class photo at school. How much did that reflect daily reality? Imperfectly.
If you just take my school photos and the couple of photo shoots my family did when I was a kid, and even if you add in the photos my grandfather would take at big events like Christmas/Boxing Day, you'd think we usually dressed very well. You'd need the rolls of film from everyday shots around the house or day trips to the beach or holidays to get a proper impression. With only 24 photos or whatever per roll and developing them not being that cheap, we didn't go crazy with it. This was the 1990s and early 2000s. So no wonder photos from eighty years ago look formal.
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Also, I'm about done with the friggin' shrug smilie. Someone take it out the back and shoot it.
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Sometimes I fantasise about how it would be if someone had managed to develop a working photographic process in the time of Cromwell, say. I believe a lot of the principles were there, in principle, but working, not so much.
__________________As it is, between the high-water mark of Roman portrait sculpture (we have a really good idea of what Pompey the Great, Julius Caesar and Sulla looked like, in part because that republic's veneration of seniority and experience really let all the jowls, wrinkles and baldness show), and the perfection of European painting techniques in the sixteenth to eighteenth centuries, what a lot of people looked like is a little bit fuzzy. I'm just taking the European tradition as an example, since, well, it's where I come from ultimately. |
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