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I'm sure we can both agree however that whatever really happened ... a black man should not be dead right now.
there is no such thing as a responsible gun owner. it's like being a healthy smoker. most gun owners are well intentioned, but the act of owning a gun itself is irresponsible. always, and in all ways.
at the risk of sounding like i'm blaming the victim -- i'm not, at all -- but i do wonder if our heavily armed population makes our cops a bit more trigger happy and jumpy than they would be if firearms weren't so widely available.
I don't agree. How is owning a gun in itself irresponsible?
my point is a broad one: owning a gun is an invitation to bring gun violence into your world. the mere presence of a gun dramatically increases the likelihood that you or someone you know will be shot in your house or in your presence. maybe you.
Owning a car increases the likelihood you or someone will be killed in a car accident, but I wouldn't say that makes you irresponsible.
I think you can be a responsible gun owner. I don't believe our carry laws are very responsible. I don't believe our purchasing laws are responsible. And I DO believe that if anyone still supports the NRA they ARE partially responsible for the problems we have on our streets.
i think that cars are used for purposes other than killing people in accidents.
guns are designed to pump hot metal into flesh in order to end life.
i also think that i'm distracting from what should be the real focus: the victims.
for that i'm sorry.
The silence from the NRA is deafening.
You can hunt with a bow and arrow, too.You and I are probably 90-95% in agreeance on guns, but I do believe that self defense and hunting are legitimate purposes and can be done so responsibly.
You can hunt with a bow and arrow, too.
You and I are probably 90-95% in agreeance on guns, but I do believe that self defense and hunting are legitimate purposes and can be done so responsibly.
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both of these videos are incredibly disturbing.
at the risk of sounding like i'm blaming the victim -- i'm not, at all -- but i do wonder if our heavily armed population makes our cops a bit more trigger happy and jumpy than they would be if firearms weren't so widely available.
Clearly yes.
It's why I'm always so baffled why there are so many officers who support the NRA. The two things don't go hand in hand. You would think the majority would want as many guns off the street as possible.
It's also another sign of our institutional racism in this country. Everyone comes out crying for gun control after mass shootings, but you don't see the same level of outrage at the daily killings in poor black neighborhoods.
It's time to get the god damn guns off of the god damn streets. Everywhere. No good comes from it.
When there's a mass shooting, we hear people say "if only they were carrying".
But when an officer shoots a civilian we hear people say "well he shouldn't be carrying".
When a man is shot by an officer we get a full list of his previous record.
When a college student rapes an unconscious woman, we hear about his past accomplishments.
Rape and domestic abuse aren't "major" crimes?
This was taken last year at aConfederateKKK rally.
If you're white and have your hand on gun, they try and talk you down. If you're black and reach for your wallet, you're dead.
Let's stop pretending this is just fucking hyperbole.
The officer in Minnesota is not Caucasian.I'm not pretending its exaggeration, I can see it.
Just that like before, people are again rushing to judgment before the facts are known. People see a video clip and decide the officers are guilty because the officer is white and the victim black.
Obama not wasting a second to continue dividing and creating turmoil rushes to his mic to chime in.
Surely you're joking?I'm not pretending its exaggeration, I can see it.
Just that like before, people are again rushing to judgment before the facts are known. People see a video clip and decide the officers are guilty because the officer is white and the victim black.
Ah yes, you are jokingObama not wasting a second to continue dividing and creating turmoil rushes to his mic to chime in.
I'm not pretending its exaggeration, I can see it.
Obama not wasting a second to continue dividing and creating turmoil rushes to his mic to chime in.
Are you sure? Because you said, "I just don't see it" and it's all "exaggeration" in your last post in here. But now you see it? Now it's not exaggeration? So your thread title is incorrect? I'm glad you've finally admitted this.
How did Obama divide?
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No one is assuming the victim was shot because of race, you are not understanding the issue if you think that is what anyone is saying. The issue is that because of the color of your skin you will be treated differently, the assumptions will be different, the prism of threat is entirely different. If you can't see that then you are choosing to be blind. Not colorblind, but willfully blind.No, the thread title is correct: racism is exaggerated in the U.S.
In these recent officer shootings it is almost automatically assumed the victim was shot because of race.
If you can't see or understand how Obama his used the issue of race the past years, I don't know what to say.
No one is assuming the victim was shot because of race, you are not understanding the issue if you think that is what anyone is saying. The issue is that because of the color of your skin you will be treated differently, the assumptions will be different, the prism of threat is entirely different. If you can't see that then you are choosing to be blind. Not colorblind, but willfully blind.
USED the issue of race? This alone shows you just don't understand. Tell me one thing that was incorrect or "dividing" about what he said.
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