Racism: glorified hyperbole in America

[BEAL]

This is where the pessimist in me comes out.

It really looks like something staged for the photo op. She made her point.

But, the good news: She was using her right to protest peacefully, and the police were very cool with her. She was released later that night.

[Moonlit_Angel]

That's good news . Glad to hear about one of these kinds of encounters ending well for a change.

And even if your assumption is true about it being a photo op, it shows a peaceful side to the protests that sadly gets drowned out by the violence, so I'd be okay with it being staged if it gets that message out there in the process.

[Bluer White]

Originally Posted by Oregoropa

If Chicago had gotten the 2016 Olympic Games over Rio I think you have seen a lot more resources pumped into public safety.


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Is it too late to change the venue ?

[trojanchick99]

People were asking about our experiences as POC, so here are mine.

I'm not a black man, but I have been pulled over because of the color of my skin and it was humiliating. I was in West Virginia for a wedding, and driving to Pittsburgh to catch my flight back to LA. The State Trooper who pulled us over, asked why we were there because we obviously weren't locals. He then questioned us as to why there was loose plastic, when I went to show him he became agitated. And yet I still have it better than African Americans in this country.

Back in California, my apartment was swatted. This is when someone calls in a fake 911 call. At 1am I was woken up to LAPD banging on my apartment door. I was half asleep when I opened it to find 2 swat officers pointing their assault rifles at me. It was terrifying. They then searched my apartment because they were told there were gunshots fired from my building. To this day, I wonder what would have happened if I weren't a small Latina.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by iron yuppie

Yes, especially I live there and work on the South Side, which is often and wrongly presented as the epitome of lawlessness. I don't think Chicago is even in the top 15 US cities for violent crime per capita.

Yes, but Obama.

[DaveC]

The gut-wrenching history of black babies and alligators - The Undefeated

well this was an eye-opening read.

[dazzledbylight]

And also there no other protestors really near her. Yet there are 2 of these intensely armoured policemen arresting her .

[dazzledbylight]

Originally Posted by Moonlit_Angel

Shit like that is why we'll never be able to have a legit conversation about race in this country.

Oh, maybe not as hopeless as it seems at this moment.

Was listening to local WNYC AM Radio (public radio) this late morning so local host (not NPR) had on Film Director Stanley Nelson (who was a teen in The 60's) who just recently completed and had shown at ASundance Festival his new film on the Black Panthers, and was also very recently shown on PBS channels.

Before the hot button might go off on the mention of TBP....

Mr Nelson was saying he actually did feel some hope particularly seeing many white young people (+ Latinos, Asians) joining many of BLM marches.I'd have to podcast it re catch some more of his coments... I got waylaid by that photo I mentioned.

[dazzledbylight]

Originally Posted by BEAL

This is where the pessimist in me comes out.

It really looks like something staged for the photo op. She made her point.

But, the good news: She was using her right to protest peacefully, and the police were very cool with her. She was released later that night.

The photographer thought he heard her Ms Evans say to people by her that she was going to stay there and be arrested.

So I don't know if that fits your definition of "staged", but...

Social media has been calling it a reminder of Tianiman Sq tank guy.

[Bluer White]

Originally Posted by dazzledbylight

And also there no other protestors really near her. Yet there are 2 of these intensely armoured policemen arresting her .

After this week, we don't need to question why cops might want to be, or are directly ordered to, armor up.

[dazzledbylight]

Originally Posted by Bluer White

After this week, we don't need to question why cops might want to be, or are directly ordered to, armor up.

There didn't need to be 2 of them arresting her.
One would have been enough.

[Oregoropa]

Originally Posted by Bluer White

Is it too late to change the venue ?

There seems to be a recent anti-American bias in landing international events recently. Qatar got the 2022 World Cup over the USA. They are pretty much using slave labor to build their stadiums. Bribery played a big part.

[dazzledbylight]

Here is the name and author of the book I started to mention yesterday
on why he thinks the police system here in The USA is broken, and what can be done tinfix it.

He was a beat cop in San Diego and later Chief Of Police in Seattle

Protect and Serve: How to Fix America's Police. By Norm Stamper

I heard him on same radio station / program mentioned earlier Excellent interview.

[Bluer White]

Originally Posted by dazzledbylight

There didn't need to be 2 of them arresting her. One would have been enough.

Many police departments are pairing up cops now due to current events. Don't know if that's the policy in Baton Rouge at the moment.

[dazzledbylight]

Originally Posted by Bluer White

Many police departments are pairing up cops now due to current events. Don't know if that's the policy in Baton Rouge at the moment.

Even so, one of a them at that particular encounter/moment could have stepped back a foot or two. One really could have.

[dazzledbylight]

Originally Posted by trojanchick99

People were asking about our experiences as POC, so here are mine.

I'm not a black man, but I have been pulled over because of the color of my skin and it was humiliating. I was in West Virginia for a wedding, and driving to Pittsburgh to catch my flight back to LA. The State Trooper who pulled us over, asked why we were there because we obviously weren't locals. He then questioned us as to why there was loose plastic, when I went to show him he became agitated. And yet I still have it better than African Americans in this country.

Back in California, my apartment was swatted. This is when someone calls in a fake 911 call. At 1am I was woken up to LAPD banging on my apartment door. I was half asleep when I opened it to find 2 swat officers pointing their assault rifles at me. It was terrifying. They then searched my apartment because they were told there were gunshots fired from my building. To this day, I wonder what would have happened if I weren't a small Latina.

tj9 how fucking terrifying!!!! Yeah, your gender, and small build probably saved you from some possible physical injury. I've heard about this (false SWAT s) off a& on.

Uh oh driving while POC , out of your locale particularly.... potential for difficulties.

Thank you for telling us your experiences.

[Bluer White]

Originally Posted by dazzledbylight

Even so, one of a them at that particular encounter/moment could have stepped back a foot or two. One really could have.

Fair enough

[dazzledbylight]

Originally Posted by Bluer White

Fair enough

OK, then

[Irvine511]

Devastating: This Guy Knows Exactly How Black People Should Act Around Police Officers, But He Has No Black Friends To Tell About It


The deaths of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile, two black men killed by police officers last week, have sent a wave of mourning across America. What makes these deaths even more painful is that they could have been prevented by Stuart Farren, a 43-year-old Indianapolis resident who after diligent consideration has figured out exactly how black Americans should act when confronted by police officers. Sadly, although Farren possesses the secrets for how black people can survive police encounters, he tragically has no black friends with whom he can share his wisdom.

Absolutely heartbreaking.

Police brutality is a pressing issue, and Farren knows that he cannot stay silent on how he believes black Americans should behave during encounters with law enforcement. He often composes impassioned Facebook posts declaring that black people “just need to do what the police say and stop dressing like and they won’t have any reason to worry.” But in a cruel twist of fate, there are no black people in Farren’s social network to benefit from his crucial advice.

Farren’s extensive knowledge of how the black community should navigate encounters with the police came from hours spent thinking about hypothetical situations in which pretend black people encountered pretend police officers. From these rigorous thought experiments, he was able to develop a series of techniques, such as “being civil” and “following the rules,” that could help African Americans prevent the police from harming them.

It’s devastating to realize that this is information that Farren could have shared with the black people in his community if he knew any of them.

Farren’s thoughts on how black people should behave do not stop at interactions with the police. He also recently told a group of white people that the most pressing threat to the black community is “black-on-black crime.” If only he had ever befriended any black people in his life, he could have imparted this crucial insight and possibly saved some lives.

Tragically, because he rarely interacts with members of any minority group unless he absolutely has to, it’s unlikely that the black community will be able to benefit from Farren’s profound understanding of racially fraught police encounters any time soon. This time at least, his comprehensive, detailed prescriptions for black Americans just weren’t quite enough.

We can only hope that they can somehow find a way to understand racism on their own.

Absolutely heartbreaking.

[BigMacPhisto]

Although compliance certainly would have helped in a lot of situations...