Pro-tax Occupation Protests Held Across U.S. (O.W.S. Thread)

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4) The public opinion polls have turned drastically against OWS since this chart was made.

[Tiger Edge]

Originally Posted by INDY500

1) What do Occupy protests in Spain, Italy and Germany have to do the stated beefs against American bank executives, American campaign laws and the American tax code? Foreign protests don't count.

2) Those arrest totals are woefully out of date.

3) Where's the stat on positive vs negative news coverage as presented by the MSM? Let's just say they were very sympathetic to OWS.

1) I think it just brings up the question/point as to why there is no support for conservative tea party folk overseas. Remove them and the number for the US is still overwhelming against the tea party numbers. I'm just talking numbers. Please don't jump down my throat. I don't even like OWS.

2) Probably, but it takes time to make grafix this nice. There is a + next to it, you know. And the number is still overwhelming versus the tea party numbers. The point is proven regardless.

3) Where do you start? The major channels + cable news. Do we include The Daily Show and The O'Reilly Report in the "news spectrum" as most people do? I think if you tried, it would be incredibly inaccurate, not to mention a differing opinion between positive and neutral or negative and neutral since tone is totally subjective. It's probably impossible to gauge those numbers accurately.

4) I think you'll find that support for protests lessens over time in general. People get tired of seeing other people waste time and energy. Even protesters become apathetic over time. Different reasons for protesting emerge as people just break off into smaller and smaller fringe groups and the message gets lost. I'd wager that support for the TP was high at the beginning when it actually was something set up as a grassroots movement, but the moment political leaders got involved, it nosedived. OWS has different issues, but in the beginning, before they got annoying, the numbers were higher than they are today.

I'm just talking numbers. Please don't jump down my throat. I don't even like OWS.


Out of curiosity, what networks, radio shows, newspapers and magazines don't fall under the umbrella term of "Mainstream Media"?

This is not a "gotcha" question. You don't have to watch/listen/read to list it. I just want to see a list of media that is somehow not in the general public's radar, yet so much more drastically in tune with the heart of America.

[Canadiens1131]

 

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[Tiger Edge]

Originally Posted by Canadiens1131

 

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nm nm, just h8n on people in guy fawkes masks as usual

[INDY500]

Originally Posted by Tiger Edge

Out of curiosity, what networks, radio shows, newspapers and magazines don't fall under the umbrella term of "Mainstream Media"?

ABC, CBS, NBC, AP Wire, NY Times, Wash Post and sorta CNN.

Also know as "old" media as they used to be Americans sole source of news prior to talk radio, the internet and the cable news explosion.

[Canadiens1131]

Originally Posted by INDY500

ABC, CBS, NBC, AP Wire, NY Times, Wash Post and sorta CNN.

Also know as "old" media as they used to be Americans sole source of news prior to talk radio, the internet and the cable news explosion.

ABC = liberal
CBS = liberal
NBC = clowns
AP Wire = boring
NY Times = liberal
Wash Post = liberal
CNN = celebrities! celebrities!!! celebrities! !!!

Is that a semi-accurate scorecard from your point of view?

To be honest, this is my scorecard:

ABC = yawn
CBS = dinosaurs
NBC = clowns
AP Wire = accurate
NY Times = slightly liberal
Wash Post = meh
CNN = celebrities! celebrities!!! celebrities! !!! celebrities! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fox News = fear-mongers and light, buttery popcorn entertainment

Talk radio I can happily cede to the right wing: they know the formula of how to rile people up, and will continue to diffuse it as far and as wide as their terrestrial radio towers can spread it. Oh, and traffic reports and sports fans arguing about trivial things.

[Tiger Edge]

Originally Posted by INDY500

ABC, CBS, NBC, AP Wire, NY Times, Wash Post and sorta CNN.

Also know as "old" media as they used to be Americans sole source of news prior to talk radio, the internet and the cable news explosion.

I'm confused. This is not what "mainstream" means. In fact, every time the term MSM is brought up, it's used to bash these very networks. By your own omission of FOX News, it is part of the MSM... so?

Very very confused. Here I thought mainstream meant that it was run by a select few individuals with a corporate agenda, sometimes a political agenda, usually with a slant to whatever the overlords say. This is media that is forced down our throats by others on soapboxes, but especially by select talking heads who claim to be experts in their field and spout opinions as gospel.

[kramwest1]

Originally Posted by Canadiens1131

Talk radio I can happily cede to the right wing: they know the formula...

Own all of the stations in every market and don't let any Liberal talkers get a foot in the door.

[INDY500]

Originally Posted by kramwest1

Own all of the stations in every market and don't let any Liberal talkers get a foot in the door.

Air America goes bankrupt, off air
jan 2010 - The Hill
Liberal radio network Air America has gone bankrupt and will cease live programming, the company told employees today.

Liberals talkers get their chance, they can't survive in the marketplace without government subsidies.

Exhibit 1 - NPR

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by INDY500

Liberals talkers get their chance, they can't survive in the marketplace without government subsidies.

Exhibit 1 - NPR

NPR has a colossal audience -- it's enormously successful.

also, it's not liberal. it's listened to by liberals, precisely because it isn't shouty, confrontational, angry, and imbued with a false sense of crisis. it's calm, smart, balanced, informative, and requires an attention span.

and this is because it isn't driven by ratings. thus, journalists aren't under pressure to drum up an audience by appealing to the lowest common shock denominator Jerry Springer-style.

this is exactly why the best news on the planet *isn't* driven by markets and *is* subsidized by governments. NPR, PBS, and the BBC. you could probably throw in the CBC (Canadian) and ABC (Australian). i'm sure there are others. this is what you get in a free society, whereas, ironically, the ratings-driven LCD of right wing news makes Fox and Pravda essentially the same.

news, like health care, doesn't do well when it's about pushing a product.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by INDY500

Exhibit 1 - NPR

NPR = liberal

Exhibit 1 of how conservatives don't like reading, science, or higher education?

[kramwest1]

Originally Posted by INDY500

Liberals talkers get their chance, they can't survive in the marketplace without government subsidies.

Exhibit 1 - NPR

NPR doesn't say what I want to hear = liberal garbage

Air America bankrupt = all liberal talk is a failure

Solyndra bankrupt = all green energy is a failure (oh, and Obama is a criminal)


Keep it simple for the conservatives. Nuance has a liberal bias.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by kramwest1

Nuance has a liberal bias.

I think Rush and Oscar have this tattoo...

[kramwest1]

Originally Posted by BVS

I think Rush and Oscar have this tattoo...

Well, nuance sounds French.

Nuance = gay

[INDY500]

Originally Posted by kramwest1

Keep it simple for the conservatives. Nuance has a liberal bias.

Originally Posted by Irvine511

Republicans do not care about deficits. they care about keeping taxes low on rich people. full stop.

Originally Posted by Irvine511

it's called science. but your party has never been a big fan of readin' and writin' and learnin', so i don't expect you to understand that.

Nuance? Je crois que non.

[INDY500]

11/20/11
Newt to Occupy Movement:
'Go get a job right after you take a bath."

12/2/11
Unemployment Rate Tumbles to 8.6%

Newt's tough love

[Tiger Edge]

A lot of people get hired for seasonal jobs this time of year. Check back in January and it will bounce back up.

Just saying.

[Canadiens1131]

Originally Posted by INDY500

11/20/11
Newt to Occupy Movement:
'Go get a job right after you take a bath."

12/2/11
Unemployment Rate Tumbles to 8.6%

Newt's tough love

Nice confirmation bias

[kramwest1]

Originally Posted by INDY500

Liberals talkers get their chance, they can't survive in the marketplace without government subsidies.

or...

‘Sexy Liberal Comedy Tour’

Without the benefit of national advertising, LA radio host Stephanie Miller has grossed over a million dollars this year with her “Sexy Liberal Comedy Tour” and says she and her cohorts are on track to be the nation’s top-selling comedy tour of 2011.

Live Performance - FishbowlLA

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Originally Posted by INDY500

11/20/11
Newt to Occupy Movement:
'Go get a job right after you take a bath."

12/2/11
Unemployment Rate Tumbles to 8.6%

Newt's tough love

actually this dip should be credited to OWS

camping out and smoking out kept them from going to the unemployment office
OWS is/was their job.