Poor Sarah

Harry Vest · 09-26-2008, 08:28 PM

http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/25/poor-sarah/

Hmmm. Interesting take on it all I'd say.

mikal · 09-26-2008, 08:54 PM

yeah, that interview with Couric had me laughing pretty hard.

it's not her fault for completely being out of her league, it's McCain's fault for picking her.

corianderstem · 09-26-2008, 09:48 PM

Did the woman not have the option of saying "no" to accepting the VP nomination?

If she doesn't know she's in over her head, if she honestly thinks she's ready to be president if McCain dies, then she's delusional. I don't want a delusional person on the election ballot.

Vincent Vega · 09-26-2008, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corianderstem

Did the woman not have the option of saying "no" to accepting the VP nomination?

She decided to not blink her eye. That's all that counts.

Harry Vest · 09-26-2008, 09:53 PM

Harry Vest · 09-26-2008, 10:05 PM

The Young Turks: Pity Poor Sarah

Halifax · 09-27-2008, 11:47 AM

That's why I reckon she will be eaten alive in the upcoming vice presidential debate-

Sarah Palin: Governor of Alaska, completely out of her depth in this campaign and whose only foreign policy experience was that she "lives near Russia"

Joe Biden: Senator for 36 years, Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and a political veteran who knows the ins and outs of Washinton and international politics.

Yeah, I know who I have my money on...

Carek1230 · 09-27-2008, 08:44 PM

All I have to say is the VP debate will be interesting. IMO Biden's not much better than Palin. At best he can talk his way out of a paper bag. Palin--not so much.

cydewaze · 09-28-2008, 09:41 AM

Maybe they're going for the pity factor. If she gets trounced too badly, Biden might come out looking like a bully and people might actually feel sorry for Palin.

U2Fanatic4ever · 09-28-2008, 10:11 AM

^oy, that could happen.. hopefully it won't be so bad...

**Headache in a Suitcase** · 09-28-2008, 10:26 AM

well... frankly everyone will be expecting her to be trounced in the VP debate soooo badly that if she happens to perform decently, even if she loses, it'll almost be a victory.. or at least a tie.

Earnie Shavers · 09-28-2008, 07:06 PM

Yeah, he’s got to be careful. You know the McCain camp and their PR dept at places like Fox are all ready now to jump if Biden attacks and/or the moderator tries to reign in her rambling nonsense – sexist bullies, you know. The smart plan would be to make sure his answers are as to the point and calmly delivered as possible, and pretty much leave her completely alone. *Hopefully* people will see the difference without having to point it out, but then from this distance it seems stupidity is passable in US politics.

The problem may be that she seems to be okay at memorizing coached lines, snappy sound bites. Where she falls apart in these interviews is in any follow up question. She can remember the slogan, just doesn’t know what it all means. So if he gives her a kind of free reign and she’s not being challenged at all, just given extensive opportunites to spit out the slogans she remembers, he’s got to somehow guide her into deeper waters with his answers, but do it without directly challenging her. Somehow in his answer change the nature of the question or discussion, somehow lead the moderator to ask a follow up or put something out there that she simply can’t let pass. Once she's away from the coached and memorised soundbite, frankly, she's fucked.

Anyway, it’s not going to be easy for him. He can’t just go out there and pound her into the ground the way everybody hopes. He’s got to make her look stupid, but she has to go there on her own.

the iron horse · 09-28-2008, 09:55 PM

'I think — before I blinked — I had an actual flash of insight'

OK

09-26-2008, 08:28 PM	#1
Harry Vest Refugee Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 2,455 Local Time: 03:41 PM	Poor Sarah http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/25/poor-sarah/ Hmmm. Interesting take on it all I'd say. __________________

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mikal Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Black Lodge Posts: 28,655 Local Time: 02:41 PM	yeah, that interview with Couric had me laughing pretty hard. it's not her fault for completely being out of her league, it's McCain's fault for picking her. __________________

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the iron horse Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: in a glass of CheerWine Posts: 3,266 Local Time: 04:41 PM	'I think — before I blinked — I had an actual flash of insight' OK __________________

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09-26-2008, 09:48 PM	#3
corianderstem Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 64,498 Local Time: 01:41 PM	Did the woman not have the option of saying "no" to accepting the VP nomination? If she doesn't know she's in over her head, if she honestly thinks she's ready to be president if McCain dies, then she's delusional. I don't want a delusional person on the election ballot.

09-26-2008, 09:53 PM	#5
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09-26-2008, 10:05 PM	#6
Harry Vest Refugee Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 2,455 Local Time: 03:41 PM	The Young Turks: Pity Poor Sarah

09-27-2008, 11:47 AM	#7
Halifax The Fly Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 236 Local Time: 08:41 PM	That's why I reckon she will be eaten alive in the upcoming vice presidential debate- Sarah Palin: Governor of Alaska, completely out of her depth in this campaign and whose only foreign policy experience was that she "lives near Russia" Joe Biden: Senator for 36 years, Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and a political veteran who knows the ins and outs of Washinton and international politics. Yeah, I know who I have my money on...

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Carek1230 Blue Crack Overdose Get me off the internetz! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: wishing I was somewhere else.... Posts: 125,647 Local Time: 01:41 PM	All I have to say is the VP debate will be interesting. IMO Biden's not much better than Palin. At best he can talk his way out of a paper bag. Palin--not so much.

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cydewaze Refugee Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 1,256 Local Time: 04:41 PM	Maybe they're going for the pity factor. If she gets trounced too badly, Biden might come out looking like a bully and people might actually feel sorry for Palin.

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U2Fanatic4ever Blue Crack Addict Join Date: May 2001 Location: nowhere..........man Posts: 20,254 Local Time: 04:41 PM	^oy, that could happen.. hopefully it won't be so bad...

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Headache in a Suitcase Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: With the other morally corrupt bootlicking rubes. Posts: 75,160 Local Time: 03:41 PM	well... frankly everyone will be expecting her to be trounced in the VP debate soooo badly that if she happens to perform decently, even if she loses, it'll almost be a victory.. or at least a tie.

09-28-2008, 07:06 PM	#12
Earnie Shavers Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London/Sydney Posts: 6,609 Local Time: 08:41 PM	Yeah, he’s got to be careful. You know the McCain camp and their PR dept at places like Fox are all ready now to jump if Biden attacks and/or the moderator tries to reign in her rambling nonsense – sexist bullies, you know. The smart plan would be to make sure his answers are as to the point and calmly delivered as possible, and pretty much leave her completely alone. Hopefully people will see the difference without having to point it out, but then from this distance it seems stupidity is passable in US politics. The problem may be that she seems to be okay at memorizing coached lines, snappy sound bites. Where she falls apart in these interviews is in any follow up question. She can remember the slogan, just doesn’t know what it all means. So if he gives her a kind of free reign and she’s not being challenged at all, just given extensive opportunites to spit out the slogans she remembers, he’s got to somehow guide her into deeper waters with his answers, but do it without directly challenging her. Somehow in his answer change the nature of the question or discussion, somehow lead the moderator to ask a follow up or put something out there that she simply can’t let pass. Once she's away from the coached and memorised soundbite, frankly, she's fucked. Anyway, it’s not going to be easy for him. He can’t just go out there and pound her into the ground the way everybody hopes. He’s got to make her look stupid, but she has to go there on her own.