Political Correctness

[iron yuppie]

"One woman Hamid spoke with in line remarked that she 'didn't look scary,' but 'like a good one'."

Jesus Christ - spoken probably by the exact kind of person who would claim not to be racist on account of having a Black acquaintance. There's a silver lining in Hamid's ejection, I suppose, in that she wasn't attacked while in the crowd.

[Mrs. Garrison]

Originally Posted by iron yuppie

"One woman Hamid spoke with in line remarked that she 'didn't look scary,' but 'like a good one'."

Jesus Christ - spoken probably by the exact kind of person who would claim not to be racist on account of having a Black acquaintance. There's a silver lining in Hamid's ejection, I suppose, in that she wasn't attacked while in the crowd.

I would still like to know why she was escorted out as the video didn't really explain that. Other than perhaps it was because she was standing up when everyone else was sitting down? It would be one thing if she was yelling or whatever, but simply being in attendance is not a reason to be thrown out of the event.

[DaveC]

"After Hamid and three others, all wearing stars reminiscent of those worn by Jews during the Holocaust, were escorted out by police and Trump campaign officials, Trump commented on the disturbance.

"There is hatred against us that is unbelievable," Trump said. "It's their hatred, it's not our hatred.""

[Mack_Again]

Originally Posted by DaveC

"There is hatred against us that is unbelievable," Trump said. "It's their hatred, it's not our hatred.""

well someone has to learn English

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by DaveC

"After Hamid and three others, all wearing stars reminiscent of those worn by Jews during the Holocaust, were escorted out by police and Trump campaign officials, Trump commented on the disturbance.

"There is hatred against us that is unbelievable," Trump said. "It's their hatred, it's not our hatred.""

No them. Only us.

[BVS]

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...illing-america

I stumbled on this article today and I found it relevant to some of the points made in this thread, and something I've been saying for awhile. A culture of ignorance is exactly what is causing the huge riff between our so called leaders in Washington today. It's exactly why we're debating science or if immigration should be limited by religion in the year 2016. There's a large section of our society pulling the rest of the country down, retarding it's growth. It has nothing to do with intelligence or religion. It's where you fall on that spectrum from egocentric to world centric, from pre-modern to post-modern and beyond. The egocentric pre-modern folks may or may not be the minority(I'd like to believe they are), but they're extremely loud because they are losing control, and they are afraid.

[the iron horse]

Monty Python Founder: Political Correctness Can Lead To An Orwellian Nightmare

Monty Python Founder: Political Correctness Can Lead To An Orwellian Nightmare | Daily Wire

[Oregoropa]

This is downright funny. Triumph trolls the PC College crowd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j556MWGVVqI

[Mack_Again]

Originally Posted by Oregoropa

This is downright funny. Triumph trolls the PC College crowd

I marginally care about PC but Triumph is always funny regardless of the inappropreateness of his jokes

[Caleb8844]

Anyone wanna take a crack at defending this, or at defending the legions who *did* take a crack at defending this?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IawEMxTroBk

[Vlad n U 2]

Kicking Milo Yiannopoulos' ass is something we should all promote as reasonable human beings.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by Caleb8844

Anyone wanna take a crack at defending this, or at defending the legions who *did* take a crack at defending this?

What is there to defend? Can't we all find a video, comment section, website and say "defend this". What is your point?

I'm curious as to what you think this has to do with "political correctness"?

[Caleb8844]

Point me in the direction of a story that has more to do with political correctness than a story in which an invited speaker is threatened with violence because of his political views, while security stands idly by.

I actually don't have any ill will toward the principles of BLM - I backed nearly every point they made in their infancy. But the stifling of dissenting opinions on college campuses is getting out of hand, and we really can't afford to make this a Left vs. Right (or white vs. black, for that matter) issue.

And yes, we can all play the "find something outrageous on the Internet" game. However, it isn't anywhere close to honest to say this is a universally agreed upon outrageous incident. Several university departments have supported the actions of the students, and professors have resigned over his mere presence at the school.

[Caleb8844]

Originally Posted by Vlad n U 2

Kicking Milo Yiannopoulos' ass is something we should all promote as reasonable human beings.

Are you the type to say, "well, let's take a look at those cartoons before passing any moral judgements, here," too?


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[BVS]

Originally Posted by Caleb8844

Point me in the direction of a story that has more to do with political correctness than a story in which an invited speaker is threatened with violence because of his political views, while security stands idly by.

I actually don't have any ill will toward the principles of BLM - I backed nearly every point they made in their infancy. But the stifling of dissenting opinions on college campuses is getting out of hand, and we really can't afford to make this a Left vs. Right (or white vs. black, for that matter) issue.

And yes, we can all play the "find something outrageous on the Internet" game. However, it isn't anywhere close to honest to say this is a universally agreed upon outrageous incident. Several university departments have supported the actions of the students, and professors have resigned over his mere presence at the school.

So I'll admit I didn't watch the whole clip, truth is most of what Breitbart posts and twists I can't waste my time on.

I didn't see any violence in the sections I viewed, was there any?

I hate that Breitbart and now his viewers and commenters make every move that a black person does into a "BLM" movement. Did these protestors id themselves as part?

Ultimately the question is about the security, at what point do you stop free speech? Right?

Oh, and I loved the part that a bunch of white college kids started chanting "get a job", lol

[Caleb8844]

Originally Posted by BVS

So I'll admit I didn't watch the whole clip, truth is most of what Breitbart posts and twists I can't waste my time on.



I didn't see any violence in the sections I viewed, was there any?



I hate that Breitbart and now his viewers and commenters make every move that a black person does into a "BLM" movement. Did these protestors id themselves as part?



Ultimately the question is about the security, at what point do you stop free speech? Right?



Oh, and I loved the part that a bunch of white college kids started chanting "get a job", lol

Truth be told, I've no love affair with breitbart either, as they've completely sold out for the web traffic pro-Trump coverage brings. I do have a bit of a soft spot for Yiannoppoulos, though, I can't deny this.

Apparently the guy threaten to "swing on him," or something to that degree, and the girl gets a hand within seemingly an inch or so of his face. No actual violence, but we certainly can't start moving in a direction where we decide this is a productive way of settling differences of opinions.

I'd have to watch the whole video again to get quotes, but it seems as though all news sources are in agreement in identifying them as BLM activists, and I don't believe they or the school has said otherwise (I believe someone got an interview with the guy)

I think there's an interesting discussion about what constitutes yelling fire in a crowded theater to be had though. I think this is what the anti-PC crowd and the progressives are generally disagreeing about.

[Vlad n U 2]

Originally Posted by Caleb8844

I do have a bit of a soft spot for Yiannoppoulos, though, I can't deny this.

I'm baffled as to how any half-reasonable person could, honestly. At best he's an amusing cartoon character for wannabe edgy 15 year olds.

[Caleb8844]

Originally Posted by Vlad n U 2

I'm baffled as to how any half-reasonable person could, honestly. At best he's an amusing cartoon character for wannabe edgy 15 year olds.

At first glance, it's completely understandable to conclude that this man is the devil. But if people take the time to look further into his views than the attention-whoring sound bytes, it becomes obvious that somewhere near 90% of it is completely tongue in cheek.

Plus, it's hard not to root for the other team when you've got people continuously trying to silence him


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[nbelcik]

Originally Posted by Caleb8844

At first glance, it's completely understandable to conclude that this man is the devil. But if people take the time to look further into his views than the attention-whoring sound bytes, it becomes obvious that somewhere near 90% of it is completely tongue in cheek.

Plus, it's hard not to root for the other team when you've got people continuously trying to silence him


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He's a professional asshole. In no way is that admirable, even if 90% of what he says is tongue in cheek as you claim, which probably isn't true.


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[Caleb8844]

Originally Posted by nbelcik

He's a professional asshole. In no way is that admirable

Here's where we disagree. To varying degrees, I see the value in cultural rabble rousers. From the communists of the 60s, to the punks of the 70s, to our current anti-PC crowds -- there's something to be gained from subverting the popular culture of the time, even if people believe that the popular culture is generally good.

With no counter cultural movements, the slope toward an echo chamber can become quite steep.