Personhood Amendments

[corianderstem]

Originally Posted by yolland

I think you might be recalling this story?

Yes, thank you.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by kramwest1

The Unemployed = lesser of a person

Well it's their fault they don't have a job, Herman Cain taught me that.

I just assumed it was Obama's fault

[deep]

Mississippi voters do not embarrass themselves


Mississippi's "Personhood Amendment" fails at polls - CBS

[Tiger Edge]

One of the provisos was that eggs that were fertilized for in vitro couples but not used would have to be saved and put up for adoption.

What a fucking nightmare.

[corianderstem]

Thank god some common sense prevailed.

[deep]

If someone bought a live chicken and put it in a blender, I would turn them in to the authorities, for animal cruelty.

likewise, I had to turn myself in when I scrambled some eggs and realized one was fertilized.
I killed a chicken.

[the iron horse]

Originally Posted by yolland

New York Times, Oct. 26

"fertilized human egg to be a legal person"


If it is not a human being, then what is it?

[Jive Turkey]

Originally Posted by the iron horse

"fertilized human egg to be a legal person"


If it is not a human being, then what is it?

[Dfit00]

A constitutional amendment facing voters in Mississippi on Nov. 8, and similar initiatives brewing in half a dozen other states including Florida and Ohio, would declare a fertilized human egg to be a legal person, effectively branding abortion and some forms of birth control as murder.

The porn industry has a very high predominance in Florida, if the proposal passes if wouldn't affect the people described but the porn industry as well.

We are talking about a double-faced piece of legislation that affects a wide range of people and businesses.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by the iron horse

"fertilized human egg to be a legal person"

If it is not a human being, then what is it?

What is a fertilized egg that never implants in the uterine wall?

[Jive Turkey]

A nonconformist

[kramwest1]

Originally Posted by the iron horse

"fertilized human egg to be a legal person"


If it is not a human being, then what is it?

A pre-blastocyst embryo.



What is a cluster of cells that has hair and teeth?

A person or a tumor?

[Tiger Edge]

Originally Posted by kramwest1

What is a cluster of cells that has hair and teeth?

The correct answer is

a nightmare

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by BVS

What is a fertilized egg that never implants in the uterine wall?

God's abortion.

[PhilsFan]

Originally Posted by the iron horse

"fertilized human egg to be a legal person"


If it is not a human being, then what is it?

I do believe it is a fertilized human egg.

[deep]

if it was a person, it would be entitled to representation according to the U S Constitution, every 10 years there is a national census for the counting of every person in the country.
From this national census, the U S Congress is reapportioned and the number of Congressional Districts per state are set.
A state may gain or lose seats in congress based on the total number of persons in their state.

[yolland]

Christian Science Monitor, Feb. 16

Oklahoma could become the first state to give individual rights to an embryo from the moment of conception. The state Senate, with a Republican majority, voted 34-8 Wednesday to approve a so-called personhood bill, which some say is an attempt to outlaw or restrict abortion rights. The legislation now moves to the state House, which is also controlled by Republicans. Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin, a Republican, has not publicly said whether she will sign the bill, but last year she signed into law a series of bills aimed at restricting the reproductive health choices of women. As written, the new bill defines an unborn child as having “the rights, privileges, and immunities available to other persons, citizens, and residents” from the “moment of conception until birth at every stage of biological development.”

Personhood USA, an antiabortion organization in Arvada, CO, has been leading state efforts to get a personhood bill made into law. Last year it was behind a similar referendum in Mississippi that eventually failed. In almost every other state, it has launched petition drives for personhood amendments. These efforts are part of a wider strategy to get the US Supreme Court to overturn the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion...In 2011, more than 1,100 such pieces of legislation were introduced in the 50 states–-a 17% increase from the 950 introduced the previous year. Of this proposed legislation, 135 laws were enacted in 36 states, a 52% increase from 89 in 2010.

Oklahoma state Sen. Brian Crain (R), who sponsored the current bill, said its passage is not about blocking access to contraception or preventing stem-cell research, and he added that it is not designed to ban abortion. “The unborn have no voice of their own,” Senator Crain told the Tulsa World Thursday. Ms. Nash sees it differently. This legislation, she says, is a “backdoor approach to banning abortion, contraception, and some forms of infertility treatment,” based on the language surrounding the issue in other states. “To say that it isn’t about those things is a little odd,” she adds. The Oklahoma Coalition for Reproductive Justice and the Oklahoma State Medical Association are both in opposition to the legislation, saying that defining a fertilized egg or an embryo as a person will jeopardize the doctor-patient relationship, because doctors fearing potential prosecution will discontinue performing in vitro fertilization procedures.

[Moonlit_Angel]

Oklahoma state Sen. Brian Crain (R), who sponsored the current bill, said its passage is not about blocking access to contraception or preventing stem-cell research, and he added that it is not designed to ban abortion.

See, he says that, but then...

“The unborn have no voice of their own,” Senator Crain told the Tulsa World Thursday.

Generally when that statement comes up, anti-abortion action of some sort is usually right around the corner.

By the way, that would be a "no DUH" statement, wouldn't it? Being unborn, by its very definition, does kind of makes it awfully hard for you to, you know, have a voice. Or make it hard for you to do anything other than continue to form into a being.

[the iron horse]

Aren't you glad your mom did not abort you?

[corianderstem]

Aren't you glad the government does not have a say over what I do with my uterus?

Or do I not understand what a libertarian is?